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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #195 on: November 14, 2012, 10:46:36 am »
Or we do what TI did and edit the colors a bit and move some text around.

The real WTF here is that TI included the TI-84+ series skins in the TI-30X emulator.
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #196 on: November 14, 2012, 10:49:19 am »
please scale that image down, it freezes my computer O.o
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #197 on: November 14, 2012, 11:02:31 am »
Fixed.
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #198 on: November 14, 2012, 11:04:34 am »
Thanks, it's a lot better now.
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #199 on: November 14, 2012, 11:05:38 am »
I wonder if they are planning on expanding the TI-30X emulator to include the 83/84 series. Why they would do that when ZDS already has a 83/84 series emulator, I don't know.
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #200 on: November 14, 2012, 11:06:31 am »
What's ZDS again ?

(edit : meh, nevermind : http://epsstore.ti.com/OA_HTML/csksxvm.jsp?nSetId=94259)
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #201 on: November 14, 2012, 05:36:48 pm »
Wait I didn't know ZDS even had an emulator???

Also something scary: Techpoweredmath specifies that the suggested price, although not done deal yet, will be $150 in United States. The current TI-84+ costs $110 and the TI-84+SE costs $130. Both the TI-Nspire Touchpad and CAS Touchpad costs $150 and the CX models $160.

I seriously hope that is not true, because if they keep the Nspire CX regular around and the final 84+CSE has 22 KB of RAM and 3 MB of archive with a 15 MHz processor, that's not a $10 price difference that's gonna convince people to get a much weaker model over the CX. Plus this would mean that the calc would cost $200 in Canada!
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #202 on: November 14, 2012, 06:03:08 pm »
ZDS doesn't. He's probably thinking of TI Flash Studio.


If a 1 MB flash chip costs $1.50 and a 2 MB flash chip costs $2.00, what is the price difference between a TI-84+ and a TI-84+SE, which are identical in every way except for the flash chips and different dye in the plastic case? (Seriously, the boot code unlock function is only there because the boot code needs to inform the ASIC whether it's in a TI-84+ or SE.)

So yes, by TI's logic, $150 is totally reasonable.
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #203 on: November 14, 2012, 06:06:59 pm »
Ah ok, I guess that's why. I remember that the emulator bundled in TI Flash Debugger was far from accurate, though (even less than VTI). I remember that about half of the programs I would try in it would not run at all, plus there was no grayscale.
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #204 on: November 14, 2012, 09:53:05 pm »
It was somewhat popular for a while among assembly programmers because it supported Flash, while VTI didn't.  As the name suggests, it was designed for debugging Flash apps.  It doesn't hold a candle to any of the newer third-party emulators, though.
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #205 on: November 14, 2012, 10:10:50 pm »
Actually I think it was also the first emulator to support the 83+SE calcs until 2007. >.<
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #206 on: November 14, 2012, 10:23:59 pm »
You're talking to the guy who released the first free software 83+ SE emulator, in 2004.  :P

(I don't remember when SE support was added to the Flash Debugger, though.  And there was also an unfinished version of VTI that supported the SE and had some limited Flash support.)
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #207 on: November 14, 2012, 11:32:33 pm »
Oh wait I totally forgot about TilEm. Wasn't it extremely buggy in 2004, though? D: (and before 2004, it was Linux-only)

As for FD, I think SE support was added somewhere in 2002. I remember the copy I had on my TI-CD only had 83+ support and maybe 73, then in 2002 I downloaded a new version which added SE support, but it ran at the same speed as 83+. As for the finished VTI version I could run entire games that needed the archive such as Reuben Quest, along with APPs, but in order to send non-APP files to the emulator you needed to use the ROM dumper that came with VTI, which was incredibly sensitive (for example, if you typed a character in notepad while the ROM dump was in progress and it caused a nanosecond of lag, then your ROM dump became corrupted) and took decades to complete. Doing so included the programs in the ROM (unless they were in RAM), so you could run them. I could never get SE support to work in that emu, though.
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #208 on: November 15, 2012, 01:20:40 am »
But now TilEm2 is awesome and it's all i ever use anymore ;) The real question though is when will the first 84+C emulator come out?
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Re: A new z80 calc... in color?
« Reply #209 on: November 15, 2012, 11:12:36 am »
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ZDS doesn't. He's probably thinking of TI Flash Studio.
You are right, thanks. I didn't think it was zds, but I remembered seeing something from TI that had an emulator and was a dev enviroment.
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