Author Topic: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1  (Read 35311 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline GB

  • LV4 Regular (Next: 200)
  • ****
  • Posts: 147
  • Rating: +15/-3
  • Use Microhard WindOS today!
    • View Profile
    • MICROHARD CORPORATION
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2012, 03:02:58 pm »
I loaded the theme editor on my calculator, a TI-Nspire click pad with OS 3.1 and Ndless, and it reboots when I run it. Any thoughts on what might be causing this?
TI-86 USER
CASIO PRIZM USER
TI-NSPIRE USER
TI-84 PLUS SILVER EDITION USER
TI-83 PLUS USER

PROJECTS:

Microhard Paint
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?topic=11915.0

TI-Nspire Character Map
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?topic=7725.msg142555#msg142555

Offline TheNlightenedOne

  • LV6 Super Member (Next: 500)
  • ******
  • Posts: 427
  • Rating: +16/-1
    • View Profile
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2012, 03:15:56 pm »
GB, are you using the latest revision of Ndless?
"Eris" (Ndless 3.1)
"Keto" (Ndless 3.1)
"Luna" (AMS 3.10, HW4)
"Aurora" (2.55MP)

Offline AzNg0d1030

  • LV7 Elite (Next: 700)
  • *******
  • Posts: 522
  • Rating: +45/-4
  • Hardcore anime watcher.
    • View Profile
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2012, 08:48:34 pm »
Was messing with the editor and this is what I've done:

The picture isn't very clear since it was my iPhone... So don't just trust what you see.

1. Outlined in red (not as bright as in the photos)
2. Changed top bar gradient to Black to Blue
3. Pop up bar when putting mouse over things is now black with bright green text and outline
4. All titles (e.g. New Document, Current, Recent>) are a darker gray that light up bright green when highlighted
5. Highlight bar is also Black to Blue gradient
6. Drop down menu (e.g. when you click recent or status) is black with dark gray text that are green when highlighted just like the homescreen
7. When you highlight the apps at the bottom, the text that comes up at the very bottom matches the red outline.
8. The "Current" and "Recent>" text turn a dark red when there is no current or recent
You just lost the game.



Offline GB

  • LV4 Regular (Next: 200)
  • ****
  • Posts: 147
  • Rating: +15/-3
  • Use Microhard WindOS today!
    • View Profile
    • MICROHARD CORPORATION
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2012, 09:52:37 pm »
GB, are you using the latest revision of Ndless?

Maybe I'll give that a shot. Been a while since I've upgraded Ndless. Thanks for the help!
TI-86 USER
CASIO PRIZM USER
TI-NSPIRE USER
TI-84 PLUS SILVER EDITION USER
TI-83 PLUS USER

PROJECTS:

Microhard Paint
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?topic=11915.0

TI-Nspire Character Map
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?topic=7725.msg142555#msg142555

Offline AzNg0d1030

  • LV7 Elite (Next: 700)
  • *******
  • Posts: 522
  • Rating: +45/-4
  • Hardcore anime watcher.
    • View Profile
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2012, 10:02:41 pm »
GB, are you using the latest revision of Ndless?

Maybe I'll give that a shot. Been a while since I've upgraded Ndless. Thanks for the help!
Mine isn't the newest version either (newest: r643 mine: r623) but it works fine as you see by my pictures above
You just lost the game.



Offline Darl181

  • «Yo buddy, you still alive?»
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • *
  • Posts: 3408
  • Rating: +305/-13
  • VGhlIEdhbWU=
    • View Profile
    • darl181.webuda.com
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2012, 10:54:02 pm »
Looking pretty good :)
Does this mean that in the future there might be theme files or something, like replacing the themes.csv with some customized version?


Also, OT but the Computer Link works for updating Ndless
not sure about installing
And what's with the folder name? 0.o
"ndless-GÇïv3.GÇï1-GÇïbeta-GÇïr643"
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 01:42:20 am by Darl181 »
Vy'o'us pleorsdti thl'e gjaemue

Offline Levak

  • LV9 Veteran (Next: 1337)
  • *********
  • Posts: 1002
  • Rating: +208/-39
    • View Profile
    • My website
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2012, 07:58:01 am »
Looking pretty good :)
Does this mean that in the future there might be theme files or something, like replacing the themes.csv with some customized version?
Not really but that's the idea.
According to my thoughts, the theme developer will create bunch of themes and publish them somewhere in a database. Other users will do so. Then, users that don't want to waste time or don't know much about theme editing will just send the .theme.tns files on the calculator and launch them (ndless.cfg). The theme will be applied and saved as default theme.


For now I have only one problem : I have no precise idea how to separate the theme editor itself and the theme manager. What's cool now, is that the theme editor launch immediatly. If I add a theme manager we will have to chose some option each time we will want to change a value.

Also, I plan to add a "last index" thing in order to avoid losing (the game) time during come and backs to the theme editor.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 08:00:49 am by Levak »
I do not get mad at people, I just want them to learn the way I learnt.
My website - TI-Planet - iNspired-Lua

Offline DJ Omnimaga

  • Clacualters are teh gr33t
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV15 Omnimagician (Next: --)
  • *
  • Posts: 55943
  • Rating: +3154/-232
  • CodeWalrus founder & retired Omnimaga founder
    • View Profile
    • Dream of Omnimaga Music
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2012, 02:17:19 pm »
Is the latest Ndless available at the usual place? Because the last time I downloaded the latest revision on the Ndless site it still wouldn't run some recent demos or programs, so I thought Ndless updates moved elsewhere or something.

Offline Levak

  • LV9 Veteran (Next: 1337)
  • *********
  • Posts: 1002
  • Rating: +208/-39
    • View Profile
    • My website
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2012, 02:24:00 pm »
Is the latest Ndless available at the usual place? Because the last time I downloaded the latest revision on the Ndless site it still wouldn't run some recent demos or programs, so I thought Ndless updates moved elsewhere or something.
No. It is still where it is (unsads).
But the thing is, there is a svn trunk for beta testers and ExtendeD/Lionel where you have to build it with a specific env. Some demos where using those revisions of Ndless.
To my mind Lionel updates the public build when he has some time =).

Anyway, it should work with the latest publicly available revision as some users here managed to run it.


Was messing with the editor and this is what I've done:

The picture isn't very clear since it was my iPhone... So don't just trust what you see.

1. Outlined in red (not as bright as in the photos)
2. Changed top bar gradient to Black to Blue
3. Pop up bar when putting mouse over things is now black with bright green text and outline
4. All titles (e.g. New Document, Current, Recent>) are a darker gray that light up bright green when highlighted
5. Highlight bar is also Black to Blue gradient
6. Drop down menu (e.g. when you click recent or status) is black with dark gray text that are green when highlighted just like the homescreen
7. When you highlight the apps at the bottom, the text that comes up at the very bottom matches the red outline.
8. The "Current" and "Recent>" text turn a dark red when there is no current or recent

Nice =)
Is it possible that you take some of your time to give a name to each field you modified in order to make it easier for other people to modify what they want ?
It is what I call "ready for documentation".
Thanks.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 02:27:36 pm by Levak »
I do not get mad at people, I just want them to learn the way I learnt.
My website - TI-Planet - iNspired-Lua

Offline DJ Omnimaga

  • Clacualters are teh gr33t
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV15 Omnimagician (Next: --)
  • *
  • Posts: 55943
  • Rating: +3154/-232
  • CodeWalrus founder & retired Omnimaga founder
    • View Profile
    • Dream of Omnimaga Music
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2012, 02:33:23 pm »
Ah ok so the latest version isn't always an executable right? I guess that might explain why there were some people having troubles running Ndless programs sometimes.

Offline Levak

  • LV9 Veteran (Next: 1337)
  • *********
  • Posts: 1002
  • Rating: +208/-39
    • View Profile
    • My website
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2012, 02:47:44 pm »
Ah ok so the latest version isn't always an executable right? I guess that might explain why there were some people having troubles running Ndless programs sometimes.
Yes. For example, when there is a bug in the trunk, we can "easily" fix it. If the public one would have been automatically updated, that would let some people with an untested revision.
But most of the time, it is just that people don't have the latest publicly available revision because they don't know there is a new one. Indeed, Ndless 3.1 is in constant upgrade since the recent works and discoveries (usb, gui, strings, etc ..).
I do not get mad at people, I just want them to learn the way I learnt.
My website - TI-Planet - iNspired-Lua

Offline Darl181

  • «Yo buddy, you still alive?»
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • *
  • Posts: 3408
  • Rating: +305/-13
  • VGhlIEdhbWU=
    • View Profile
    • darl181.webuda.com
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2012, 03:47:35 pm »
Just had a random thought..did anybody here use Anycolor back in the Firefox 3 days? Basically, you give it base, accent and text colors and it puts them to use accordingly.
Maybe something like that could be a sort of "lite" version of the editor..?

Edit: haven't been playing with this much, and most of what I've messed with so far is self-explanatory..I'll put them out anyway

---
HomeScreenTitleGradientStart / PageSorterAndDocBrowserTitleBarGradientStart
HomeScreenTitleGradientEnd / PageSorterAndDocBrowserTitleBarGradientEnd
HomeScreenBorder
HomeScreenBackground
HomeScreenHorizontalDividerBar
HomeScreenSectionsTitles
HomeScreenSelectedOptionBackground / HomeScreenUnselectedOptionBackground     
HomeScreenTextWithoutFocusEnabled
HomeScreenTextWithoutFocusDisabled
HomeScreenFocusGradientStart
HomeScreenFocusGradientEnd
...
TooltipText
TooltipRectangle
TooltipBackground
top part of screen in respective areas, iirc there's one for the scratchpad as well.  use grayscale only apparently
bottom part of said gradient, can be whatever
one-pixel frame around whole screen
background color of whole thing, ie is green in this
the line that separates the titlebar from the rest of the screen
"Scratchpad" "Documents" above the options
rectangles that contain the options, selected and unselected respectively (single-color? haven't played with much yet)
text of unselected options, ie "My Documents" in pic below
unavailable options, such as "Recent" "Current" (also in pic)
appears on focused option, ie "Settings".  top end, behaves like titlebar gradients
bottom of said gradient

tooltip appears when something is hovered over. color of text
color of rectangle outline
color of background
---
* Darl181 wishes there was a way to page up/down :P

I'm starting with the DocBrowser stuff, also the Scrollbar.

Edit: Noticed this got linked, and it never really got anywhere so I made this for whoever to add to:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApuMx3pmUebodFZkZkhEWjZpdERCd1VNYzNhcUxsTnc#gid=0
« Last Edit: August 28, 2012, 04:37:17 am by Darl181 »
Vy'o'us pleorsdti thl'e gjaemue

Offline ExtendeD

  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV8 Addict (Next: 1000)
  • *
  • Posts: 825
  • Rating: +167/-2
    • View Profile
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2012, 05:35:21 pm »
 Ndless's SVN head is now pushed at least every week as a public zipped release  to make it available to everyone. The packaging and upload is automated with a 'make' target to make things easier.
Ndless.me with the finest TI-Nspire programs

Offline aeTIos

  • Nonbinary computing specialist
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3915
  • Rating: +184/-32
    • View Profile
    • wank.party
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2012, 06:10:45 pm »
Ick.
so. many. options.
Could you name them a bit recognisable and put some headers in?
(I prefer the last above the first)
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 06:11:06 pm by aeTIos »
I'm not a nerd but I pretend:

Offline Darl181

  • «Yo buddy, you still alive?»
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • *
  • Posts: 3408
  • Rating: +305/-13
  • VGhlIEdhbWU=
    • View Profile
    • darl181.webuda.com
Re: A theme editor coming for Ndless 3.1
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2012, 07:02:00 pm »
Ick.
so. many. options.
Could you name them a bit recognisable and put some headers in?
(I prefer the last above the first)
Those names are taken directly from the list. I'm guessing they're part of the OS itself, and the editor just lists and changes them.
Most of them you can (somewhat) tell what they are just by looking at the names, anyway.. And if you don't know for sure and care enough to find out you can change it to some obvious color and look around :P
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 07:09:05 pm by Darl181 »
Vy'o'us pleorsdti thl'e gjaemue