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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #195 on: October 11, 2010, 08:18:55 pm »
I don't believe so -- and the double post was another infamous accident of mine ;D
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #196 on: October 11, 2010, 08:36:36 pm »
It seems there's been some confusion bewteen RAM and ROM in some posts above.

TI's applications are stored in ROM (Flash-ROM).
Casio's add-ins are equivalent, and are stored in ROM too.

So the geometry add-in has nothing to do with the RAM of the Prizm.


Let's sum up things again! To my knowledge:

TI-83: 6MHz, 32Kb RAM (27Kb available to the user), 256Kb ROM
TI-73: 6MHz, 32Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 512Kb ROM (64-192Kb available to the user, depending upon the installed OS)
TI-83+: 6MHz, 32Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 512Kb ROM (160Kb available to the user)
TI-83+SE: 16MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)
TI-84+ old: 16MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 1Mb ROM (480Kb available to the user)
TI-84+SE old: 16MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)
TI-84+ new: 16MHz, 48Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 1Mb ROM (480Kb available to the user)
TI-84+SE new: 16MHz, 48Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)
TI-Nspire with 84+ keypad: ??MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)

All those RAM/ROM informations are gathered in my following (french) document, and illustrated by various charts:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=1130
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #197 on: October 11, 2010, 08:38:12 pm »
Quote from: critor on October 11, 2010, 08:36:36 pm
It seems there's been some confusion bewteen RAM and ROM in some posts above.

TI's applications are stored in ROM (Flash-ROM).
Casio's add-ins are equivalent, and are stored in ROM too.

So the geometry add-in has nothing to do with the RAM of the Prizm.


Let's sum up things again! To my knowledge:

TI-83: 6MHz, 32Kb RAM (27Kb available to the user), 256Kb ROM
TI-73: 6MHz, 32Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 512Kb ROM (64-192Kb available to the user, depending upon the installed OS)
TI-83+: 6MHz, 32Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 512Kb ROM (160Kb available to the user)
TI-83+SE: 16MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)
TI-84+ old: 16MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 1Mb ROM (480Kb available to the user)
TI-84+SE old: 16MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)
TI-84+ new: 16MHz, 48Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 1Mb ROM (480Kb available to the user)
TI-84+SE new: 16MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)
TI-Nspire with 84+ keypad: ??MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)

All those RAM/ROM informations are gathered in my following (french) document, and illustrated by various charts:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=1130

Ah, thanks. I actually got it right? O.O :D

So basically, the only difference between non-SEs and SEs is in mem ... wow.
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #198 on: October 11, 2010, 08:42:41 pm »
I think there's also a slight difference in speed between the 84+ and the 84+ SE.
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #199 on: October 11, 2010, 08:48:51 pm »
Quote from: Deep Thought on October 11, 2010, 08:18:02 pm
Double-post ;)

Do any of TI's calcs support C by themselves?

The 89/92+/V200 have an official SDK from TI for the making of flash apps, programmed in C.

But it's a crappy C compiler, so no one uses it anymore (unless someone needs to make a flash app). People use TIGCC/GCC4TI or maybe GTC instead.
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #200 on: October 11, 2010, 08:50:22 pm »
Quote from: critor on October 11, 2010, 08:36:36 pm
It seems there's been some confusion bewteen RAM and ROM in some posts above.

TI's applications are stored in ROM (Flash-ROM).
Casio's add-ins are equivalent, and are stored in ROM too.

So the geometry add-in has nothing to do with the RAM of the Prizm.


Let's sum up things again! To my knowledge:

TI-83: 6MHz, 32Kb RAM (27Kb available to the user), 256Kb ROM
TI-73: 6MHz, 32Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 512Kb ROM (64-192Kb available to the user, depending upon the installed OS)
TI-83+: 6MHz, 32Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 512Kb ROM (160Kb available to the user)
TI-83+SE: 16MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)
TI-84+ old: 16MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 1Mb ROM (480Kb available to the user)
TI-84+SE old: 16MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)
TI-84+ new: 16MHz, 48Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 1Mb ROM (480Kb available to the user)
TI-84+SE new: 16MHz, 48Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)
TI-Nspire with 84+ keypad: ??MHz, 128Kb RAM (24Kb available to the user), 2Mb ROM (1.5Mb available to the user)

All those RAM/ROM informations are gathered in my following (french) document, and illustrated by various charts:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=1130
I thought the 83+SE/84+ had 15 Mhz processors, not 16 MHz? ???

@Qwerty not really, it's pretty much the same. There are reports that the 83+SE BASIC is slightly faster than the 84+ and 84+SE though.
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #201 on: October 11, 2010, 08:53:34 pm »
DJ -> The TI-89Titanium HW4 is supposed to run at 15MHz.
For the TI-84+, many sites are mentionning 16MHz. Others are mentionning 15MHz, but it might be a confusion with the TI-89Titanium...
I admit that 15MHz would be more logic (6*2.5) if we think to overclocking. But I don't know if the calculator is using such a multiplier. I've allways read of resistors or capacitors you had to change...

Quote from: Qwerty.55 on October 11, 2010, 08:42:41 pm
I think there's also a slight difference in speed between the 84+ and the 84+ SE.

Never experienced any difference, neither read of it.


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Quote from: Deep Thought on October 11, 2010, 08:18:02 pm
Double-post ;)

Do any of TI's calcs support C by themselves?

The 89/92+/V200 have an official SDK from TI for the making of flash apps, programmed in C.

But it's a crappy C compiler, so no one uses it anymore (unless someone needs to make a flash app). People use TIGCC/GCC4TI or maybe GTC instead.

The TI-73/83+/84+/83+SE/84+SE also have an official SDK including an emulator and a debugger.

It looks like that:


You can download it here:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=1291
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #202 on: October 11, 2010, 08:58:42 pm »
Yeah I remember downloading that from TI website. MY TI-83+SE CD has an even older version that has no TI-83+SE support and doesn't support 8xg files.
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #203 on: October 11, 2010, 09:00:15 pm »
I remember using that SDK once ... it sucked :P
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #204 on: October 11, 2010, 09:03:47 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on October 11, 2010, 08:58:42 pm
Yeah I remember downloading that from TI website. MY TI-83+SE CD has an even older version that has no TI-83+SE support and doesn't support 8xg files.

No problem! ;)
We've also kept the older version without 83+SE support just for you! :p
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=1372
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #205 on: October 11, 2010, 09:04:59 pm »
Lol nice. I remember having hours and hours of pleasure with that version, trying to get group files to work. Ugh x.x
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #206 on: October 11, 2010, 09:05:27 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on October 11, 2010, 08:50:22 pm

@Qwerty not really, it's pretty much the same. There are reports that the 83+SE BASIC is slightly faster than the 84+ and 84+SE though.

I remember something about the 84+ being a couple of cycles faster for some commands than the 84+ SE.
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #207 on: October 11, 2010, 09:08:07 pm »
Oh, not that.  That's the first emulator I ever used.  Once I found Wabbit I never touched the Flash debugger ever again. ;D

I believe the 83+SE, 84+, and 84+SE are 15mhz calcs, but I may be mistaken. :)
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #208 on: October 11, 2010, 09:09:27 pm »
Quote from: critor on October 11, 2010, 08:53:34 pm
Quote from: TC01 on October 11, 2010, 08:48:51 pm
Quote from: Deep Thought on October 11, 2010, 08:18:02 pm
Double-post ;)

Do any of TI's calcs support C by themselves?

The 89/92+/V200 have an official SDK from TI for the making of flash apps, programmed in C.

But it's a crappy C compiler, so no one uses it anymore (unless someone needs to make a flash app). People use TIGCC/GCC4TI or maybe GTC instead.

The TI-73/83+/84+/83+SE/84+SE also have an official SDK including an emulator and a debugger.

I know that. But he asked if any calcs supported C, not if they had SDKs. It just happens that the 68k SDK has a C compiler included.
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #209 on: October 11, 2010, 09:10:40 pm »
Quote from: Qwerty.55 on October 11, 2010, 09:05:27 pm
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on October 11, 2010, 08:50:22 pm

@Qwerty not really, it's pretty much the same. There are reports that the 83+SE BASIC is slightly faster than the 84+ and 84+SE though.

I remember something about the 84+ being a couple of cycles faster for some commands than the 84+ SE.

Don't know, but the TI-Nspire in 84+ mode (it's emulating an old 84+SE) is doing something like that...
It's a little slower than a true 84+ in general, but much faster for some commands.

For example, with MathPrint, the text Disp/Output commands are faster on the Nspire emulated 84+ than on a true 84+.
They still remain slower than without MathPrint.
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