Author Topic: Difference between CX & CX CAS hardware spotted  (Read 18688 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline critor

  • Editor
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2079
  • Rating: +439/-13
    • View Profile
    • TI-Planet
Difference between CX & CX CAS hardware spotted
« on: September 16, 2012, 07:14:54 am »
In a previous TI-Planet news, we figured out that there was a hardware difference between non-CAS TI-Nspire CX and TI-Nspire CX CAS.

Although both calculators are sharing the same screen board (which is the mainboard as it does include the ASIC and NAND chips but programmed differently), a FireBird_Color_MB_6422 we noticed that the keypad boards had different references:
  • FireBird_Color_KB_EVT_4421 for the TI-Nspire CX CAS
  • FireBird_Noncas_Color_KB_EVT_4421 for the non-CAS TI-Nspire CX


We were wondering what the interest of maintaining a separate production line for non-CAS TI-Nspire CX could be, since unlike previous models both keyboards are now the same on TI-Nspire CX.



To better understand what TI had in mind, let's just plug a TI-Nspire CX CAS screen board in a non-CAS TI-Nspire CX:
The TI-Nspire CX CAS OS doesn't want to start and shows you an "unrecognized keypad" error message, confirming that there is some hardware difference between the non-CAS CX and CX CAS keypad boards.



Let's also plug a non-CAS TI-Nspire CX screen board in a TI-Nspire CX CAS:
This time no error message, but the OS does not boot and the calculator enters a reboot loop.



All this is weird...

We could think to a protection against 'case switching' but it's not much harder to swith keypad boards after switching screen boards.

It might be intended to counter temporary or permanent non-CAS to CAs modifications through OSlauncher or hwMod, although they've never been runned successfully on TI-Nspire CX.

Or perhaps simply that this has been kept for strange compatibility reasons with non-CX Nspire models which had different keyboards.



Source:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10390

Offline Jim Bauwens

  • Lua! Nspire! Linux!
  • Editor
  • LV10 31337 u53r (Next: 2000)
  • **********
  • Posts: 1881
  • Rating: +206/-7
  • Linux!
    • View Profile
    • nothing...
Re: Difference between CX & CX CAS hardware spotted
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2012, 12:10:10 pm »
Hmm, very interesting.

Also, if this would be against CAS on non CAS, it wouldn't be very effective, as someone would make a tool to patch the phoenix.raw since it's not encrypted.
Or TI was just not thinking that far.

Offline Sorunome

  • Fox Fox Fox Fox Fox Fox Fox!
  • Support Staff
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *************
  • Posts: 7920
  • Rating: +374/-13
  • Derpy Hooves
    • View Profile
    • My website! (You might lose the game)
Re: Difference between CX & CX CAS hardware spotted
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2012, 06:10:33 pm »
That is very interesting, maybe that is a thing they did to prevent using a cas os on a non-cas?

THE GAME
Also, check out my website
If OmnomIRC is screwed up, blame me!
Click here to give me an internet!

Offline Jim Bauwens

  • Lua! Nspire! Linux!
  • Editor
  • LV10 31337 u53r (Next: 2000)
  • **********
  • Posts: 1881
  • Rating: +206/-7
  • Linux!
    • View Profile
    • nothing...
Re: Difference between CX & CX CAS hardware spotted
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2012, 03:16:54 am »
Maybe, but as I wrote in my last post it wouldn't be very effective :D

Offline apcalc

  • The Game
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV10 31337 u53r (Next: 2000)
  • *
  • Posts: 1393
  • Rating: +120/-2
  • VGhlIEdhbWUh (Base 64 :))
    • View Profile
Re: Difference between CX & CX CAS hardware spotted
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 05:58:35 pm »
Nice pics! I would be afraid to disassemble my calc like that! ;)


Offline NeoCrisis

  • LV5 Advanced (Next: 300)
  • *****
  • Posts: 217
  • Rating: +14/-2
  • tihacker59
    • View Profile
Re: Difference between CX & CX CAS hardware spotted
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 10:27:14 am »
Well, you just need a Torcx 5/6 screwriver.. My Nspire strangely has 5/6 T6 screws and one T5 OO that surprised me a lot, but as I bought a set of T5/6/7, I don't mind :P



TI-Planet moderator

Offline runeazn

  • LV4 Regular (Next: 200)
  • ****
  • Posts: 191
  • Rating: +5/-3
    • View Profile
Re: Difference between CX & CX CAS hardware spotted
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 12:16:19 pm »
it also has a strange horuglass like screw?

Offline aeTIos

  • Nonbinary computing specialist
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3915
  • Rating: +184/-32
    • View Profile
    • wank.party
Re: Difference between CX & CX CAS hardware spotted
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2012, 03:28:53 am »
*cough* you necroposted by 3 months *cough*
I'm not a nerd but I pretend: