Author Topic: Imagine if the 84+C was 6 MHz (color 83+ coming soon?) (Read 11505 times)

DJ Omnimaga · « **on:** April 12, 2014, 01:02:53 pm »

A TI-Planet user, cpxo, has mentionned that a new color calculator, the TI-83 CE, is supposed to come out next year. The calculator prototype that he tested revealed that it would actually be a TI-83 Plus with a color screen.

http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14254&p=160596#p160593
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=160600#p160600

The picture in the news article about it (second link) is fake (and is a photoshop of this), because the person was not allowed to take pictures of the real prototype, but assuming there is really a 83 CE coming out, we can already wonder in the TI community what would be the technical specs.

-Would it support the undocumented modes of the color 84+ model? (such as 160x240, low color, etc)
-Would it use a 6 MHz processor like the original 83+ or would it switch to 15 MHz like the TI-83 Plus.Fr USB?
-Would it have extra RAM pages?
-Would archive be upgraded from the 164380 bytes available on the TI-83 Plus?
-Will it just be a renamed TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition dedicated to France market? (entirely possible, as apparently, the TI-83 CE OS uses MathPrint and has the complex numbers glitch)
-Or could TI finally use better hardware such as a faster but Z80-compatible processor due to complains about slow display on the color 84+ series model?

Source: See links above.

Sorunome · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2014, 02:20:34 pm »

Wait, wouldn't like even the flashing cursor lag in that speed?

Streetwalrus · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2014, 02:32:28 pm »

I guess so. It would be a nice prank to set someone CSE to 6MHz mode actually.

Keoni29 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2014, 02:33:27 pm »

Doesn't the CSE run in 6MHz mode by default?

Streetwalrus · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2014, 02:36:37 pm »

Nope, full speed.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2014, 09:05:04 pm »

Yeah it has 15 MHz by default. I saw how slow it was in 6 MHz mode once via a DCSE beta glitch and it was totally unuseable. Knowing TI, I wouldn't be surprised if they did a 6 MHz-only color calc, though.

Streetwalrus · « **Reply #6 on:** April 13, 2014, 02:04:32 am »

The monochrome 15 MHz calcs also run the OS at full speed. They only throttle down when running ASM programs or apps for compatibility with the 83+.

TIfanx1999 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2014, 07:21:11 am »

If this is true, my guess is that it would be a TI-83 Plus.Fr USB with the color screen upgrade and the 84+C OS. Because you know, TI marketing.... I can't imagine them trying to do this with a 6MHZ machine unless major changes were made. We know that won't happen, because that's extra money and dev time they won't spend.

Sorunome · « **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2014, 04:57:04 pm »

eZ80

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #9 on:** April 13, 2014, 05:44:00 pm »

That said, I wonder if they might not just set the LCD at 160x240 by default and change the OS fonts so they can fit in order to save every last penny possible by avoiding the use of a 15 MHz processor?

Streetwalrus · « **Reply #10 on:** April 13, 2014, 05:46:19 pm »

I seriously hope they won't screw it up as much as the CSE. But seeing how TI is scewing up all the time there are 99% chances that it's a nerfed CSE or just a French model with a different name (and case ?).

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2014, 06:12:36 pm »

Yeah I'm thinking it might just be the latter. Now that the 83 Plus.Fr USB is a TI-84 Plus Silver Edition and the TI-82 Plus a TI-83 Plus, maybe the CE calc will be the 84+CSE. I have to wonder if they won't rename the TI-Nspire CX as TI-84 Plus.Fr or just release a France-only higher end Z80 model with more Flash.

willrandship · « **Reply #12 on:** April 13, 2014, 07:03:17 pm »

They already have a fully functional z80 emulator for ARM. Why aren't they using it to make new calculator designs, if they want to continue the 84+ series?

kevinkore3 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 13, 2014, 08:57:35 pm »

ARM processors are probably a lot more expensive. Btw, There isn't a good z80 emulator for the nspire, at least for os 3.6. Knowing TI, they'll use a 6MHZ CPU with a lower resolution. The TI 84+ C SE actually has less usable RAM then the normal TI 84 +, so I wouldn't expect much...

Streetwalrus · « **Reply #14 on:** April 14, 2014, 04:13:32 am »

A 6 MHz arm calc would be tons faster though.

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