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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2011, 02:34:34 pm »
I a nerdy person who will buy one. I might be able to get a few other people to get them also. My school won't because they do not want the new technology. They still have office 2003 no compatibility pack, Ti-82,83+,84. No 84+ or silver editions. My math teacher would love to be able to get them though if the school let him I believe.
Er the TI-84 doesn't exist. It skips directly from the 83+SE to the 84+. ???

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2011, 02:35:46 pm »
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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2011, 02:36:39 pm »
Oh ok, lol. :P

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2011, 03:02:14 pm »
Haha, At the very least you'll get an entire website of orders for project: paradise. :P

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Late last night, Quebec was invaded by a group calling themselves, "Omnimaga". Not much is known about these mysterious people except that they all carried calculators of some kind and they all seemed to converge on one house in particular. Experts estimate that the combined power of their fabled calculators is greater than all the worlds super computers put together. The group seems to be holding out in the home of a certain DJ_O, who the Omnimagians claim to be their founder. Such power has put the world at a standstill with everyone waiting to see what the Omnimagians will do...

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In the wake of these events, we can only ask, Why? Why do these people make these demands, what caused them to gather, and what are their future plans...

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 03:14:00 pm »
Well hopefully with all these independent projects and pushes by communities for stronger and more versatile calculators we will see education finally start picking up the ball on technology. A lot of school technology tends to be ten-fifteen years behind (which is in part due to a rapid increase in technological development, but still). I think if education in the US at least embraces technology ten twenty years from now you wont be seeing calculators as we know it know like the ti 83's, 84's. Hopefully we will see more versatile, almost ipod touch type devices, that are interactive, touch screen up to date graphics and ability to easily connect communicate and then in turn learn
I saw this one school plan proposed where ipod touches would be provided free and they would act as the calculator, I mean they even hap a CAS app for it. So i hope these indie project push through and we can start to see these really interesting powerful, modern devices in the educational world.

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 03:21:19 pm »
The thing I always worried was that eventually they would use PDA's or ipod touch at school to do math, but since these devices are not primarly meant for school, I think it would pose a problem for teachers during tests. If Uberspire adds a feature to Ubercalc that allows teachers to set the calc in teacher mode for a certain amount of time (3 hours, for example, assuming the test lasts 3 hours), where no program can be used as well as some special calc functions, then it would be more suitable for school, as it would be teacher-friendly.

Heck, why not allowing the CAS to be desactivated as well? Then could it solve the no-CAS calc allowed issue?
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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 03:46:23 pm »
well i mean if you have an ipod touch like device, you have an app that acts like a calculator and a teacher has to activate each in testing mode and to get out of it you have to have a password (which the teacher would have) it is certainly possible for pda's and ipod like devices. and i mean what is wrong with that?

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 03:48:25 pm »
The fact that not all teachers know how to set such devices, not all students have Iphones, and people can jailbreak phones to communicate wirelessly.
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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2011, 03:51:05 pm »
well teachers have to learn how calculators work in their required workshops why not technology? and ok im not saying exactly a ipod touch a device like it (not necessarily wi-fi)

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2011, 04:55:07 am »
That could work, although since the iPod allows much more than a calc they would have a lot to learn.

Also an iPod touch is like $199 CDN, so not everyone would be able to afford them here. A TI-84+ is overpriced, but many students will not be able to afford an ipod. It would have to be a cheaper device. (But then Apple would try to get a monopoly in schools I guess)

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2011, 03:17:04 pm »
I would say that I think the future of learning is game-based learning. Learning through playing games, you know? So the computer industry and software design industry will have a heyday with that.

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Wait... This just in, the Omnimagians have sent the UN a list of demands that must be met or else the world will be "submitted to the wrath of Netham45's Lobster Army". Such demands include >9001 crates of peanuts, sacrificial blue lobsters, and a wide assortment of cherry flavored items. With such computing power stored in the hands of such people, we can only hope these demands are met.

In the wake of these events, we can only ask, Why? Why do these people make these demands, what caused them to gather, and what are their future plans...

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2011, 06:20:36 pm »
Well I doubt schools would like the idea of teaching using gore-intensive games, though. As for math, they could teach some game programming math elements. :P

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2011, 06:24:02 pm »
Not necessarily M-rated games, but games focused on the things being taught. It might soon be experimented with here in Maryland. But yes, I really wish that the teachers would teach us a bit of programming.

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Wait... This just in, the Omnimagians have sent the UN a list of demands that must be met or else the world will be "submitted to the wrath of Netham45's Lobster Army". Such demands include >9001 crates of peanuts, sacrificial blue lobsters, and a wide assortment of cherry flavored items. With such computing power stored in the hands of such people, we can only hope these demands are met.

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2011, 06:24:28 pm »
well some colleges have taught through videogames... the problem is they are more focused on the goal based rewards they want not the actual process and lesson the teachers want to demonstrate.

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Re: Indie calculators at the horizon?
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2011, 06:27:17 pm »
I guess that would make sense, but when I lived in western New York, our school had a small math game on the computers that forced you to know the processes behind the mathematics in order for you to advance. Idk if that could apply to say, reading but it definitely has advantages over conventional teaching methods.
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Wait... This just in, the Omnimagians have sent the UN a list of demands that must be met or else the world will be "submitted to the wrath of Netham45's Lobster Army". Such demands include >9001 crates of peanuts, sacrificial blue lobsters, and a wide assortment of cherry flavored items. With such computing power stored in the hands of such people, we can only hope these demands are met.

In the wake of these events, we can only ask, Why? Why do these people make these demands, what caused them to gather, and what are their future plans...