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Ndless 1.7 officially released
« on: December 04, 2010, 02:54:31 pm »
TI-Nspire OS 1.7 users, rejoice: Ndless is now officially available for it, as version 1.7! Although versions of it were already available for a while in source code format (meaning that you had to compile it yourself), for people who wanted to develop for it, but now it is available in an official release in binary, ready to use for everyone, both on Ticalc.org and Omnimaga archives!

Besides OS 1.7 compatibility, this version is also transferable from a calculator to another. Make sure to read the instructions before attempting any transfer or installing, though.

Ndless combines a resident program and utilities to open the TI-Nspire to third-party C and assembly development.

Ndless 1.7 is the latest stable release compatible with OS 1.7. This version is currently not compatible with the TI-Nspire Touchpad.
This topic is dedicated to discussions about this version.

Possible enhancements and known issues are available on the tracker.

You may browse the Development resources on Hackspire to start your own programs.

To build and hack into Ndless 1.7, follow src/doc/Ndess-Development.txt.

Ndless v1.1.1 is still available but support is dicontinued.



Issues to be confirmed:

If you happen to come across one of them, please report it.

  • (apcalc) Installation lost when turning the TI-Nspire on:
    Even though the calculator was not reset.  Reinstalling Ndless fixes this.

  • (critor) Reboot when turning the TI-Nspire on:
    'particles' was run before turning it off.



Your help is needed:

- Post any bug report, source-level if possible
- Help us to extend the list of supported syscalls
- Any details, diagnostic or patch which would help fixing the defects identified is extremely valuable

Changes in Ndless 1.7 over last version

Ndless 1.7 Discussion topic

Hopefully Ndless 2.0 will be available soon as well, solving the issue for most Touchpad users. Discussion about it will happen in the Ndless 2.0 topic.

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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2010, 02:56:19 pm »
This is a great step in NSpire, when 2.0 comes all Touchpad Users will be able to play Super Mario.

We need to warn Nspire users not to update their OSs too, I'm sure Texas will release a 'great! full of new features' OS in two days -.-

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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2010, 02:57:00 pm »
yesss, time for some gamboy games!

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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2010, 03:50:11 pm »
yesss, time for some gamboy games!

This will make the TI NSpire community much more active, so I believe new emulators will come out. So many GBA Emulators you can't even decide which one to use hahaha

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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2010, 07:54:20 pm »
Yeah I believe that a lot of people who couldn't use OS 1.1 before will now come back or join, since 1.7 is easier to find than 1.1 and doesn't have the power bug.

I wonder how many hours were spent on Ndless btw? There must have been A LOT considering it involved finding security exploits and stuff! :O

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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2010, 08:06:38 pm »
Installing it right now!
Here's an OS 1.7 download link, courtesy of The Pirate Bay TI. ;D Maybe DJ, you could put it in the first post.
Now that 1.7 is official, I can start on a project I'd planned. :)
« Last Edit: December 04, 2010, 08:13:27 pm by fb39ca4 »

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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2010, 08:09:14 pm »
Woah they even listed it again??? Before, we had to guess the direct file link to download it...

On an off-topic note, weren't you working on a 3D maze program using Bwang's engine or was it someone else?

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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2010, 08:16:15 pm »
Woah they even listed it again??? Before, we had to guess the direct file link to download it...

On an off-topic note, weren't you working on a 3D maze program using Bwang's engine or was it someone else?
I still think the direct link is required, as this is the only page accessible from the rest of the site: http://education.ti.com/calculators/downloads/US/Software/Detail?id=6766#
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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2010, 08:27:07 pm »
Woah they even listed it again??? Before, we had to guess the direct file link to download it...

On an off-topic note, weren't you working on a 3D maze program using Bwang's engine or was it someone else?
Yeah, that was me. But I had problems with global variables. I guess I could restart that, as I think global variable support was supposed to be added in this version of ndless.

And the link I got was by googling: site:eduacation.ti.com operating system 1.7
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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2010, 08:40:07 pm »
I see. Well I hope you eventually pick it up again. :)

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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2010, 10:25:22 pm »
hmm, I am curious if he losing-installation-after-reboot thing still happens `-` (no reboots from my end though :D)

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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2010, 11:11:21 pm »
hmm, I am curious if he losing-installation-after-reboot thing still happens `-` (no reboots from my end though :D)
Well, yes, but it's not a huge hassle to install once a reboot happens, since it doesn't need to be plugged into a computer anymore.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2010, 02:23:29 am »
Question, what does happen when you attempt at running an ASM/C document when Ndless is uninstalled? Does it crashes or something?

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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2010, 04:34:23 am »
DJ: there's an OS popup telling the format is not recognized.

hmm, I am curious if he losing-installation-after-reboot thing still happens `-` (no reboots from my end though :D)
Well, yes, but it's not a huge hassle to install once a reboot happens, since it doesn't need to be plugged into a computer anymore.

But it shouldn't happen, please tell me when you see it, I'd like to understand how frequent it is.
Forget this, I thought there was unexepected reboots.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 officially released
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2010, 05:00:05 am »
I think I'll try tomorrow. Is the reboot that occurs after pulling a battery the exact same as when returning from hibernation, by the way?