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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2013, 09:52:22 pm »
Mainly design changes and some Lua scripting changes too.

Official changelog will be coming soon anyway
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2013, 10:02:11 pm »
Tried it out on my CAS CX with nlaunch, it turned my 5KB document into a 7KB document. When I "downgraded" the document, it went back to 5KB.
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2013, 02:26:41 am »
Quote from: Roondak on October 16, 2013, 10:02:11 pm
Tried it out on my CAS CX with nlaunch, it turned my 5KB document into a 7KB document. When I "downgraded" the document, it went back to 5KB.
Interesting (but sad).
What kind of document was that, by the way ?
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #48 on: October 17, 2013, 07:07:16 am »
Just some Nspire BASIC programming. You know, the calculator and such. It also had a note in it.

It originally wouldn't let me re-open it in 3.1, so I sent it to the computer software, opened it with that, and sent it back and it was 3.1 style again (even though my student software is 3.2).
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #49 on: October 17, 2013, 07:36:35 am »
Yeah, 3.2+ are not 100% compatible with 3.1...
(Might especially be because of the Notes pages, actually)
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #50 on: October 17, 2013, 11:57:07 am »
Which is why I think it would be nice to have a third-party 3.2 to 3.1 (or any other version, even 1.1 to 3.1) converter, then if the program you attempt to convert uses commands not available in older OSes, it just notifies you and ask if you want to convert anyway (and remove the offending lines of code or not).

I personally don't want to use NLaunch because I don't have enough space left on my calc to store an extra OS.
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #51 on: October 17, 2013, 01:07:55 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on October 17, 2013, 11:57:07 am
Which is why I think it would be nice to have a third-party 3.2 to 3.1 (or any other version, even 1.1 to 3.1) converter, then if the program you attempt to convert uses commands not available in older OSes, it just notifies you and ask if you want to convert anyway (and remove the offending lines of code or not).
this feature actually exists in 3.1, I have documents created in 3.2 (exclusively Lua) that I can open in 3.1. When I open them, the OS prompts me a warning, but still opens it.
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2013, 01:19:47 pm »
Oh ok I thought it just didn't work at all.
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2013, 02:57:55 pm »
It's as easy as creating a new document, putting only a Lua page (might even work if a Calc page is added too, but not a Notes page), and setting the lua script's API as "1.0".

but this will be made easier in TINCS 3.6. There is directly a feature to set the compatiblity, IIRC.
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2013, 03:02:30 pm »
Oh that is cool. I hope that TI won't instate a minimum compatibility such as OS 3.2.4, tho <_<
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2013, 03:53:37 pm »
Looks nice, but im disappointed by the inability to downgrade. Maybe Ill put it on my CX but not my CX CAS
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2013, 03:58:48 pm »
Well you still can put it in dual boot on your CX CAS without deleting Ndless on any of your calculators.
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2013, 07:19:48 pm »
It seems that 3.2 docs can be opened with 3.1, 3.1 just deletes the offending stuff as far as I can tell. The warning is what tells you that the deletion will happen.
The 3.6 doc I created could not be opened with 3.1, but opening it and saving in the Student Software made it work.
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2013, 10:29:56 pm »
Well that's good to hear then. I got worried because IIRC, from 1.1 to 2.0 or 2.0 to 3.0.1 the compatibility broke, even if in some cases there was no document changes. It was not just for Lua material.
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2013, 12:07:41 pm »
I've now made some charts for TI-Nspire OS sizes from 1.1 to 3.6. You can see what OS 3.6 is forbidding you to do, and where we are going, especially for TI-Nspire ClickPad and TouchPad...










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http://wiki.tiplanet.org/Versions_Nspire
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