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Re: Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #60 on: October 21, 2013, 12:26:44 pm »
OS 10.5 will no longer fit on grayscale models :P

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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2013, 08:43:49 am »
The Ndless 3.6 switching pack has now been updated for the TI-Nspire CX non-CAS:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=13260
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2013, 11:52:55 am »
Why the hell are non-CAS OSes bigger than CAS ones ? O.O

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Re: Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2013, 12:02:19 pm »
If you mean the Clickpad/Touchpad ones it's because the non CAS calc had 84+ emulation support with interchangeable keypads.

Also great news critor :)

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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2013, 12:04:26 pm »
Oh yeah right.
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2013, 07:28:22 am »
Ndless/3.6 switching pack has now been updated with the new nLaunch.

The new pack does now include all required files and doesn't need a modified OS 3.6 image anymore.

It now supports all TI-Nspire models:
- TI-Nspire
- TI-Nspire CAS
- TI-Nspire CX
- TI-Nspire CX CAS

Download:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/archives_voir.php?id=21229

Installation how-to in english:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=13213&lang=en
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2013, 11:19:43 pm »
Good to know :)

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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2013, 06:20:58 am »
Finally some official infos about OS 3.6. Looks like the release will be soon.
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13521&p=153446#p153446

Note especially about this:


It's confirmed that you won't be able to downgrade from 3.6 ever again (officially), because of fixes related to the press-to-test mode.
So it looks like they're referring to some Ndless tool, attacking the PTT mode, which was released here on Omnimaga.
Unfortunately, even after being moderated and explained things here, someone didn't think this back and did rerelease the tool on github.

So to the one who will feel concerned by this, thank you very much for all the problems we now have to deal with...



If Ndless 3.2/3.6 is released someday (and note I said *if*), I hope that nobody will attack the PTT ever again.
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #68 on: December 05, 2013, 07:10:27 am »
It's confirmed that you won't be able to downgrade from 3.6 ever again (officially), because of fixes related to the press-to-test mode.
So it looks like they're referring to some Ndless tool, attacking the PTT mode, which was released here on Omnimaga.
Unfortunately, even after being moderated and explained things here, the author didn't think this back and did rerelease its tool on github.
Huh? Who put PTTKiller/PTTCopier on GitHub?

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So to the one who will feel concerned by this, thank you very much for all the problems we now have to deal with...
Could you please stop blaming other people...?

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If Ndless 3.2/3.6 is released someday (and note I said *if*), I hope that nobody will attack the PTT ever again.
And I hope TI stops being stupid... but I guess that will not happen...

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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #69 on: December 05, 2013, 09:12:56 am »
According to what TI has written, the person who was stupid enough to release PTTkiller publicly after it had been moderated here is clearly responsible for this.

Edit:
But I just brought in some information. Feel free to suggest that TI is lying, but if we take the text as is, I just made the logic conclusion about the reason of all our problems.

I didn't want to imply that the author did the upload himself.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2013, 10:02:26 am by critor »
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #70 on: December 05, 2013, 09:22:35 am »
Double post to add some information, because apparently, someone was fast enoush to down-vote before I could even edit my post with some piece of evidence.


Huh? Who put PTTKiller/PTTCopier on GitHub

You seemed to know about it:
Well, PTTcopier is still available and findable with a simple google search.

Edit: ok, explanation on the chat with Compu.
He did mention a Youtube result with Google.
He doesn't know who did put the tool on Github with such a description
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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #71 on: December 05, 2013, 09:43:25 am »
There we go again, oh no! This may sound a bit paternalistic (i'm sorry for that) but i beg of you both, please stop blaming each other, we need your nice contributions here.

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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2013, 09:49:27 am »
Did you even look at the Github repo?
1. it is not made by me
2. it only describes what PTTKiller does

PTTKiller is not available for download there, I have no idea how this weird description ended up on github, please get your facts right before telling bullshit.

Also, that PTTCopier is also NOT made by me and NOT hosted by me.

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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #73 on: December 05, 2013, 10:11:13 am »
Ok so, authorship "issues" etc. about these latest posts seem solved but as I was saying on the chat, I believe people smart enough to find exactly what they are looking for (and take the necessary steps to do what's needed, then) and/or make the program themselves with some info collected on multiple websites... well, will have to be responsible for themselves. And still, why so much focus on cheating... time taken to get such programe would be better spent studying anyway :P

Also, it's a mess, there has been stuff like :
- PTTKiller
- PTTKillerSE
- PTTKillerXSE
- PTTCopier
- PTTFake[r]

over time.

And probably some other nameless ones since the method to create such a program is quite easily available at different places.

It's easier to find ways to defeat PTT rather than finding an actual ready-to-use program, but .tns files are still available if you look well enough though.

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Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« Reply #74 on: December 05, 2013, 10:12:42 am »
I wasn't even blaming Compu in the 1st post, as two PTT Ndless tools were released on Omnimaga by two different authors and both of them were removed.
I don't even know which one is his own tool.

I'd like to apologize to Compu if I did hurt him.

Let's stay with the facts and informations:

- two PTT Ndless tools were released on Omnimaga

- both of them were removed from Omnimaga, but the authors could properly argue about this and present their points of view in their respective topics

- somebody did put back one of those tools on Github with a description which, to me, seems agressive towards TI and towards the members of the community who were against such tools (like me) in both topics

- TI is mentionning this for forbidding users of the new OS 3.6 to downgrade to any previous OS


Because of some misunderstanding, the 1st post was implying that one of both authors did reupload this himself.
I've now fixed the post.

If you don't agree with the latest fact, you should blame TI - not me.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2013, 10:49:13 am by critor »
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