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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2014, 05:40:30 pm »
I just tried pinch zooming and it works perfectly. I also noticed that scrolling with fingers now stops smoothly in the program list and on graphs. Very nice. :)



My only disappointment so far is learning that my calculator hardware was falsely advertised as having wireless capabilities when the calc came out, that would came out in later OSes, only to now learn that my hardware just doesn't support wireless capabilities at all. If I knew this from the start, maybe I would have waited before buying my calc so I can have the actual advertised hardware.

Do you think in the future it will be possible to exchange our Revision A models for Revision B ones so that people who bought the original calc expecting upcoming wireless capabilities can now get that functionality without having to buy the calc again (at the risk of running into another Revision A model)?
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2014, 05:42:30 pm »
As a note I have no quarrel with Apple products, but their legal policies are just silly :X
Back on topic, though, I am happy to see increased USB connection speed, what happened before with having to wait *forever* for the calculator's programs was really annoying.
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2014, 05:46:49 pm »
Well, Samsung is as much of a legal pita as Apple is. :P
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2014, 05:53:12 pm »
Indeed. I think both companies are just upset that they don't have the monopoly, though, and I am sure that if Casio or HP made as much money as TI, TI would do the same or vice-versa. :P


Also, I don't recall Samsung suing individuals or little companies for stupid things like rounded corners or black UI's. :P
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2014, 07:01:11 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on May 27, 2014, 05:13:17 pm
On a side note, is the missing Send button in the emulator because all transfer abilities were moved to the connectivity kit or is this just a bug?

It was very confusing having the "Send" button when there was nothing you were connected to at the moment. Select which unit you are trying to connect with from the Connect To dropdown, and then it shows up.
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2014, 07:01:53 pm »
Not for me. I selected the unit and the button remained missing on both the calc and emulator. I use USB 2.0 not 3.0, though, so I don't know if that might be why.
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2014, 08:39:05 am »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on May 27, 2014, 05:40:30 pm
My only disappointment so far is learning that my calculator hardware was falsely advertised as having wireless capabilities when the calc came out, that would came out in later OSes, only to now learn that my hardware just doesn't support wireless capabilities at all.

Can you please enumerate where you felt this was advertised?
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2014, 12:13:33 pm »
Quote from: timwessman on May 28, 2014, 08:39:05 am
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on May 27, 2014, 05:40:30 pm
My only disappointment so far is learning that my calculator hardware was falsely advertised as having wireless capabilities when the calc came out, that would came out in later OSes, only to now learn that my hardware just doesn't support wireless capabilities at all.

Can you please enumerate where you felt this was advertised?

http://h30458.www3.hp.com/ww/en/ent/introducing-hp-prime-graphing-calculator_1326042.html

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Imagine a handheld math machine with a high-resolution multi-touch color screen. Imagine that you could plug a small dongle into that machine for wireless connectivity to the teacher’s class computer allowing instant polling and the sharing of students’ screens, teacher files and settings. Imagine a machine with a spreadsheet, dynamic geometry, a full computer algebra system (CAS) and high powered programming tools, which is so easily and clearly configurable with its exam mode that it will be allowed for use in exams. No need to imagine further, the HP Prime graphing calculator has arrived.

http://commerce.hpcalc.org/prime.php
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Communications
Wireless (with optional adapter)
USB (cable included)

http://www.hpgraphingcalc.org/prime.html
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The biggest headline is: wireless connectivity. Files can be transferred via the connectivity software. However, if you plug a small USB dongle (which you purchase seperately) into the top of the PRIME, it will immediately be recognised on the computer, notably the teacher’s computer in class. Files and settings can then be transferred wirelessly.


Yet the 2014.0331 update log implies that the older models that most of us have lacks the internal hardware required to support such functionality. Unless the wi-fi adapter mentionned above can work on older hardware regardless and that the said adapter is not required for revision B models? (although that would still be a problem if the adapter is as expensive as the TI-Nspire one. The TI-Nspire wireless kit is more expensive than the actual calc)
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2014, 04:17:10 pm »
When will they realease a stable version, or is this stable?
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2014, 09:55:47 pm »
Quote from: Princetonlion.tibd on June 09, 2014, 04:17:10 pm
When will they realease a stable version, or is this stable?
This is stable.
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2014, 10:03:06 pm »
Quote from: bb010g on June 09, 2014, 09:55:47 pm
Quote from: Princetonlion.tibd on June 09, 2014, 04:17:10 pm
When will they realease a stable version, or is this stable?
This is stable.
Well... Stable by HP standards, that is. :P It has improved A LOT since the first firmware, although the 3rd one that just came out introduced new bugs it seems. I hope a new one that fixes them get released before the BTS-rush. They need to concentrate on fixing bugs from time to time even if it needs no new feature in a firmware upgrade.
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2014, 10:14:40 pm »
Quote from: bb010g on June 09, 2014, 09:55:47 pm
Quote from: Princetonlion.tibd on June 09, 2014, 04:17:10 pm
When will they realease a stable version, or is this stable?
This is stable.

For programmers? I really want to start programming one (when I repay my debts from my new V200 and get enough money
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2014, 11:48:29 pm »
Quote from: Princetonlion.tibd on June 09, 2014, 10:14:40 pm
Quote from: bb010g on June 09, 2014, 09:55:47 pm
Quote from: Princetonlion.tibd on June 09, 2014, 04:17:10 pm
When will they realease a stable version, or is this stable?
This is stable.

For programmers? I really want to start programming one (when I repay my debts from my new V200 and get enough money
It programs wonderfully right now. It's still a bit in flux, but it's a beast.
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2014, 12:23:01 am »
Just to show you how powerful the TI-BASIC-like language is on the HP Prime, here is a video showcasing many programs (some of which are very old, like the Tunnel game) using that language called HP PPL:




Not even a single byte of ASM/C code was involved.
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Re: New HP Prime OS Version: 2014.0331
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2014, 04:00:24 pm »
Whoa... That was awesome. I'm sure I'll get a HP Prime (when I can) now.

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