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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #165 on: July 19, 2010, 09:30:45 am »
critor, do we know if the touchpad is compatible with OS 1.1. I have a touchpad for my clickpad.  Would you like me to test it?
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #166 on: July 19, 2010, 09:33:41 am »
Quote from: apcalc on July 19, 2010, 09:30:45 am
critor, do we know if the touchpad is compatible with OS 1.1. I have a touchpad for my clickpad.  Would you like me to test it?

The touchpad keypad doesn't work with OS 1.x.
The OS just keeps rebooting...

So if we can downgrade a TI-Nspire TouchPad to OS 1.x, we will need a clickpad keypad.


If Ndless gets released for OS 2.0, we won't have those kind of problems any more ^^
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #167 on: July 19, 2010, 11:13:31 am »
Quote from: Deflect on July 18, 2010, 07:13:58 pm
Quote from: qazz42 on July 18, 2010, 06:36:16 pm
DJ, I am afraid so, if it wasnt for the fact you can put Cas on a non-CAS, all legal issues would be easily defeated, and ndless2 would be out.

The thing is, that would require someone else breaking the law ... not us. If what were doing is completely legal then why does that affect us? If I made a blueprint for making a baseball bat then why cant I share it with my friends?  because someone might use that to kill someone? I think thats ridiculous.

Piracy is everywhere ...(analogy time again!)  Just because you can have custom firmware for the PSP that *can* allow piracy and ripped isos, far more people use it for legitimate reasons and to add ridiculously awesome new features that Sony would never take the time to add.

Fear of other people using it to break the law shouldn't stop us as long as WE don't!  :)  


Haha, good point, I dont want to use the CAS OS anyways, I dont like it.

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EDIT: Sorry if I am derailing the convo, but why can't you send CAS 1.1 to a non-cas if the non-cas has ndless installed?
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #168 on: July 19, 2010, 12:10:47 pm »
A video demonstrating the ability to run the CAS OS on the non-CAS was posted months ago ;)
It wasn't released at the time, but that was before 1) TI's attack on TI-Bank and 2) the anti-downgrade protection in OS 2.1.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #169 on: July 19, 2010, 01:13:46 pm »
Soooo? I can put a 1.1 Cas on a non-cas with nspire?
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #170 on: July 19, 2010, 01:14:49 pm »
Apparently yes, but please realize that it is illegal.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #171 on: July 19, 2010, 01:16:42 pm »
Quote from: calcdude84se on July 19, 2010, 01:14:49 pm
Apparently yes, but please realize that it is illegal.

Just putting it is not illegal.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #172 on: July 19, 2010, 01:18:54 pm »
So what is? ???
*calcdude is confused
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #173 on: July 19, 2010, 01:27:15 pm »
Quote from: calcdude84se on July 19, 2010, 01:18:54 pm
So what is? ???
*calcdude is confused

Using the CAS software in some exams.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #174 on: July 19, 2010, 01:36:19 pm »
Oh, yes, that...
*calcdude feels like ranting at TI again (inspired indirectly by an earlier reply) :P
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #175 on: July 19, 2010, 01:46:45 pm »
Isn't turning a non-CAS Nspire into a CAS somewhat illegal, though? You normally pay $230 for a CAS and $185 for a non-CAS over here, and since both have similar hardwares, you pretty much pay the difference in the software. By installing a CAS on a non-CAS you would kinda be stealing $45 from TI, depending of where you bought your machine.

That said, not much can be done against you if you do that, though, because it's hard for anyone to get proof. It would simply be like when you download Nintendo ROMs or mp3s. On top of that, it wouldn't be as illegal, since downloading the CAS OS is legal, being available on TI website for free.

The only issue I forsee is if someone tries to pass his calc as a non-CAS in a test, something common with the TI-8x series. Back in the days (and I'm sure people still do it), people would open their TI-83 Plus or TI-84 Plus case and put in a TI-89 or TI-89 Titanium hardware.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #176 on: July 19, 2010, 02:16:03 pm »
Right, but being the same hardware, it would probably be easier.  I think you are paying for software here, but I don't really know.  If the CAS os were to easily update onto the non-CAS, then that could be a problem for TI

I have actually not seen any Nspires being allowed at standardized testing facilities.  Then again, I haven't seen them banned either.  Does anyone know if they are legal or not?
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #177 on: July 19, 2010, 02:22:35 pm »
Quote from: graphmastur on July 19, 2010, 02:16:03 pm
Right, but being the same hardware, it would probably be easier.  I think you are paying for software here, but I don't really know.  If the CAS os were to easily update onto the non-CAS, then that could be a problem for TI

I have actually not seen any Nspires being allowed at standardized testing facilities.  Then again, I haven't seen them banned either.  Does anyone know if they are legal or not?
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/homePage/nspire-exam-acceptance.html
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #178 on: July 19, 2010, 02:32:54 pm »
Quote from: calcdude84se on July 19, 2010, 01:14:49 pm
Apparently yes, but please realize that it is illegal.

1. I dont like the CAS, I want to stick to my non-cas

2. I know, I only wanted to check if it possible.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #179 on: July 19, 2010, 11:09:25 pm »
Quote from: graphmastur on July 19, 2010, 02:16:03 pm
I think you are paying for software here
We do, otherwise the TI-Nspire CAS would be cheaper than the regular Nspire (since it doesn't come with an additional 84+ keypad)
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