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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #75 on: August 21, 2010, 04:24:32 pm »
any news about ndless 2.0 yet??
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #76 on: August 21, 2010, 04:31:13 pm »
Quote from: jbaem on August 21, 2010, 04:24:32 pm
any news about ndless 2.0 yet??

There have not been any status updates on Ndless 2.0 for a while now :(

If Ndless 2 is ever released, I am predicting that we will find out about it for the first time just a few days before it is released, because the developers have to remain quiet on any exploits found so TI cannot patch them.
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #77 on: August 21, 2010, 04:37:07 pm »
I wish they could tell us things like how much time it should take to finish or something....
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #78 on: August 21, 2010, 10:52:04 pm »
From what extendeD said, he usually visit #omnimaga and #ti between releases of his stuff. They generally come pretty soon afterward. If he shows up again soon, let's hope it is Ndless 2.0 this time ;D

I think now the issue is that they no longer have enough time to work on it regulary. I hope it doesn't mean it is dead.
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #79 on: August 21, 2010, 10:58:29 pm »
Eh, if they stop working on it ,someone else will continue dev...
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #80 on: August 22, 2010, 12:59:51 am »
Yeah, but my concern is who. They need to be careful to who they give the stuff to continue the project, in case it would fall under TI hands or someone with malicious intentions (to be honest, I wouldn't give anything to Kevin Kofler, for example, because he always wanted the entire source to be public, so he would most likely make everything public, then it would make it much easier for TI to patch holes)
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #81 on: August 22, 2010, 01:22:08 am »
Yeah, Kevin Kolfer + project == dead project :(
I hope Ndless 2 appears at some time, especially since I'm getting a Touchpad CAS tomorrow. Hmmm...I should contact ExtendeD about alpha/beta testing and/or development.
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #82 on: August 22, 2010, 01:23:44 pm »
Kevin Kolfer + project= Dead project and flamed kk
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #83 on: August 22, 2010, 04:23:03 pm »
That said he progressed a lot on TIGCC a few years ago. I remember new updates would come out every week or so. It just stalled after 2006.

EDIT: On a more on-topic note, the TI-Nspire clickpad is no longer available on the Canadian Staples website. What does this means?
« Last Edit: August 22, 2010, 04:40:01 pm by DJ Omnimaga »
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #84 on: August 22, 2010, 06:59:37 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on August 22, 2010, 04:23:03 pm
That said he progressed a lot on TIGCC a few years ago. I remember new updates would come out every week or so. It just stalled after 2006.

EDIT: On a more on-topic note, the TI-Nspire clickpad is no longer available on the Canadian Staples website. What does this means?
Urp, TI is going to kill the clickpad line :(
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #85 on: August 22, 2010, 07:10:08 pm »
buy one for the museums.
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #86 on: August 22, 2010, 09:39:22 pm »
Haha! I have a clickpad, yay!
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #87 on: October 28, 2010, 04:26:23 pm »
Any news??? I've unfortunately been stuck with a plain old touchpad.  I want ndless possibilities!!!
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #88 on: October 28, 2010, 04:30:29 pm »
Quote from: qazz42 on August 22, 2010, 09:39:22 pm
Haha! I have a clickpad, yay!

So, do I, can I use ndless with a clickpad in TI NSpire (non-CAS)?
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Re: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update
« Reply #89 on: October 28, 2010, 04:39:26 pm »
Here is a clearer state of Touchpad compatibility:

Ndless 1.7 as it is cannot be compatible with OS 2.x because of the use of the "hot reboot". The hot reboot restarts the OS at installation time to get back to a stable state. The hot reboot is currently also responsible of quite many stability issues on OS 1.7.

I have been working on modifications that get rid of the hot reboot. It works quite well on nspire_emu (with a random crash for some installations, which hopefully could be fixed), but crashes on real hardware.
As long as the hot reboot cannot be replaced, Ndless won't be compatible with OS 2.x, and Touchpad won't be supported. I'll soon post these modifications which work on emulator, hopefully someone will be able to have an idea on what's going wrong.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 04:48:31 pm by ExtendeD »
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