Author Topic: Nspire OS 2.0, currently incompatible with Ndless, new handhelds and link software update (Read 36214 times)

BrownyTCat · « **Reply #15 on:** March 08, 2010, 06:03:04 pm »

I prefer OS1.7-2.0, on 1.1 I can't reboot without taking out the batteries... Ndless better be ported soon.

bwang · « **Reply #16 on:** March 08, 2010, 08:25:02 pm »

Try the fix calc84 wrote.

calc84maniac · « **Reply #17 on:** March 08, 2010, 09:00:42 pm »

Quote from: bwang on March 08, 2010, 08:25:02 pm

Try the fix calc84 wrote.

Which can be found here

sumarth · « **Reply #18 on:** March 08, 2010, 11:07:04 pm »

Quote from: Silver Shadow on March 05, 2010, 03:41:49 pm

Also note that the new version DOES have input in the form of a popup windows in Basic programs.

Very, very useful for math programs. This makes me want to ditch ndless and upgrade to 2.0, even if temporarily.
Mario ... or math?

Hmm ... we need Ndless for OS 2.0 ... i hate ti ... making my life hard.

Solution: calc84, we (or more like "I") neeeeed your ti-89 emulator for nspire

Also calc84, is it possible to just use ASM code to turn on the screen, instead of rebooting the os?

sorry if im saying stupid things, im not a programmer (yet, maybe after my 3 yrs of highschool compsci)

at least they haven't taken away the ability to downgrade ... i think i might upgrade ... no more gb(c) for me at school

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #19 on:** March 09, 2010, 12:07:40 am »

BrownyTCat nice to still see you around

And yea I hope they figure out a way to either allow Ndless to run on a newer OS or something to load two OSes on the same calculator. We just have to be patient, though, since they still have to find exploits on them, hoping there are any.

Since the 89 has many Nspire CAS functions, I think the TI-89 emu might be a temporary solution for Ndless users. Idk how far Calc84 is into dev, though. IIRC, it ran at slower speed than a real TI-89, but idk if it changed.

Btw don't worry about asking programming-related questions.

Everyone has to start somewhere and remember that programming, especially in ASM on such platforms, is a totally new world that can be pretty hard to understand. Many things are possible to do, but they can be hard to figure out.

Welcome here too, hoping for you and every Ndless users that the OS 1.7 and 2.0 are crackable

bwang · « **Reply #20 on:** March 09, 2010, 03:17:03 am »

calc84 said on UTI that since TI's LCD initialization function does not work on newer hardware, we can't turn on the screen.
I do think we need a at least an alpha release of the 89 emulator. It doesn't matter whether its fast or not, so long as it runs the AMS.
How are dialog boxes very, very useful for math? The Nspire was meant to do math via user defined functions that take arguments. We can't have anything interactive without graphics commands in BASIC, anyway.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #21 on:** March 09, 2010, 04:03:55 am »

From the screenshots he showed in #omnimaga IRC channel, it seemed to work quite nicely. Mario 68k and M4r10 ran fine, for instance. IIRC he had some issues with some stuff, but I don't remember what. It would be cool if a release was done soon.

sumarth · « **Reply #22 on:** March 09, 2010, 10:05:00 am »

Quote from: bwang on March 09, 2010, 03:17:03 am

How are dialog boxes very, very useful for math? The Nspire was meant to do math via user defined functions that take arguments. We can't have anything interactive without graphics commands in BASIC, anyway.

you cannot input new arguments during a program without dialog boxes.
I think there was a menu-like dialog box also. This way you dont have to write multiple programs to do tasks like conversion of format for linear equations, for example. Right now, i have 3 or 4 programs doing that in 1.7, but now in 2.0 i can make all these one.

if there cannot be ndless on 2.0, perhaps it would be fine if you ndless on an os that turns off and on, at least, and then the 89 emu

it would be very cool if we had a alpha or beta of "89emu4nspire"

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #23 on:** March 09, 2010, 02:34:42 pm »

I would like it on at least 1.6 or 1.7. I doN,t remember how good was the one right before that, though, but 1.6 or 1.7 would sure do the job for most people, since it alerady has more functions than 1.1 and people seemed to be fine with them.

As for the TI-89 emulator, calc84 is still working on fixing bugs. Earlier on IRC, he had random crashes, fixed it, but then there were some issues and fixed it too. Idk what problems remains. To release an alpha he must make sure it won't break people calc and that it's useable, though. However, remember calc84maniac is doing this during his free time, for free, between school, real life and maybe even work. He is free to work on this at his own pace and could very well discontinue the project when he desires (altough I doubt this will happen). An alpha version will be released when it's released. He has no deadline to respect for a release date. The best thing to do is to be patient. Welcome to the world of free softwares.

jsj795 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 09, 2010, 02:39:41 pm »

Yep! For most of us, (actually like all of us) we have a real life, we are doing this as a hobby and not as a work for the company. It is the individual developer's choice to work on it or not. Be careful not to push someone too hard, although poking from time to time to give some incentive is okay.

ztrumpet · « **Reply #25 on:** March 09, 2010, 02:47:11 pm »

Yeah, DJ hit the nail on the head.

We all (exception: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?showuser=29040) do this for fun and in our free time. As cool as it would be to have a specific program now, if most likely won't happen.

I'm pretty sure you aren't trying to be pushy, so keep in mind that we aren't mad at you or anything.

We are just expressing our opinions, and we aren't mad. I've seen people take things like this as "Why does everyone hate me!", so this is just to remind you that we don't hate you.

calc84maniac · « **Reply #26 on:** March 09, 2010, 02:56:24 pm »

Some things that definitely need to be done, off the top of my head, are:
1) Linking support (probably through the TI-84+ keypad)
2) Using .tns files to load/save the ROM
3) Saving the RAM and processor state upon exit, and loading upon start
4) Various TI-89 hardware that I simply have not implemented yet

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #27 on:** March 09, 2010, 03:03:31 pm »

Also bad news about the new TI-Nspire CAS model: Sam101 tested stuff on yAronet and TI-BANK: it appears that the new CAS cannot be downgraded from OS 2.0. Sending 2.0 to the calc will work fine, but an older OS will not. The key combination to access the maintenance menu also appears to no longer work. Either it changed or it got removed completly...

I have no clue about the new TI-Nspire non-CAS.

bwang · « **Reply #28 on:** March 09, 2010, 06:32:44 pm »

Arggh! So this is TI's response to Ndless; instead of taking legal action, they just make a new Nspire.
I wonder if they will still sell the old non-touchpad Nspires.

sumarth · « **Reply #29 on:** March 09, 2010, 07:12:42 pm »

Quote from: calc84maniac on March 09, 2010, 02:56:24 pm

Some things that definitely need to be done, off the top of my head, are:
1) Linking support (probably through the TI-84+ keypad)
2) Using .tns files to load/save the ROM
3) Saving the RAM and processor state upon exit, and loading upon start
4) Various TI-89 hardware that I simply have not implemented yet

cool!

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BrownyTCat

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