« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 ... 7   Go Down

Author Topic: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!  (Read 46739 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline critor

  • Editor
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2079
  • Rating: +439/-13
    • View Profile
    • TI-Planet
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2011, 05:17:32 pm »
Except that there are new Nspire users each year, who won't visit Omnimaga or TI-Bank before upgrading.

And that new Nspire calculators are going to come with this new OS preinstalled.



We're in a critic situation.

It's just a matter of time before the calculators still able to run Ndless become a minority.
Nobody will go on developing Ndless programs, if nobody can use them...
Logged
TI-Planet co-admin.

Offline apcalc

  • The Game
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV10 31337 u53r (Next: 2000)
  • *
  • Posts: 1393
  • Rating: +120/-2
  • VGhlIEdhbWUh (Base 64 :))
    • View Profile
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2011, 05:27:03 pm »
This is horrific news! :'(

I wonder, would it be possible to somehow add a feature to send a file from Goplat's Emulator (with OS 3.0.1) back to the computer to allow direct encryption from the emulator?

Logged

Offline yunhua98

  • You won't this read sentence right.
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2718
  • Rating: +214/-12
  • Go take a dive in the River Lethe.
    • View Profile
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2011, 05:31:38 pm »
The CX is probably going to come with 3.0.2.

My CX CD has a file named "OS upgrade"
Logged

Spoiler For =====My Projects=====:
Minor setback due to code messing up.  On hold for Contest.
<hr>
On hold for Contest.


Spoiler For ===Staff Memberships===:






Have you seen any good news-worthy programs/events?  If so, PM me with an article to be included in the next issue of CGPN!
The Game is only a demo, the code that allows one to win hasn't been done.
To paraphrase Oedipus, Hamlet, Lear, and all those guys, "I wish I had known this some time ago."
Signature Last Updated: 12/26/11
<hr>

Offline Deep Toaster

  • So much to do, so much time, so little motivation
  • Administrator
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *************
  • Posts: 8217
  • Rating: +758/-15
    • View Profile
    • ClrHome
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2011, 06:13:53 pm »
Quote from: ExtendeD on May 19, 2011, 05:05:52 pm
I don't quite understand how third-party Lua development was a problem to TI to the point of making them spend time and money to block it. Lua is well sandboxed and doesn't threaten calculator stability or press-to-test.

That's what I'm wondering. I see paid apps on the horizon.
Logged



Offline critor

  • Editor
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2079
  • Rating: +439/-13
    • View Profile
    • TI-Planet
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2011, 06:16:53 pm »
Quote from: Deep Thought on May 19, 2011, 06:13:53 pm
Quote from: ExtendeD on May 19, 2011, 05:05:52 pm
I don't quite understand how third-party Lua development was a problem to TI to the point of making them spend time and money to block it. Lua is well sandboxed and doesn't threaten calculator stability or press-to-test.

That's what I'm wondering. I see paid apps on the horizon.

Maybe.

Check this: http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1109
Logged
TI-Planet co-admin.

Offline Netham45

  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2103
  • Rating: +213/-4
  • *explodes*
    • View Profile
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2011, 06:21:30 pm »
If you can send to 3.01 then pull and have it run on 3.02, then it should be pretty feasible to have some website that does that for you.

Of course, we'd need the emulator working on 3.01 first.
Logged
Omnimaga Admin

Offline ruler501

  • Meep
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2475
  • Rating: +66/-9
  • Crazy Programmer
    • View Profile
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2011, 06:31:48 pm »
Quote from: yunhua98 on May 19, 2011, 05:31:38 pm
My CX CD has a file named "OS upgrade"
I wouldn't use it if I were you... It will probably brick it or worse prevent Lua

Damn TI they give us a great thing jut to take it away, Lua programs.
On the bright side I did predict that they would prevent downgrading even using TNOC
Logged
I currently don't do much, but I am a developer for a game you should totally try out called AssaultCube Reloaded download here https://assaultcuber.codeplex.com/
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.1
GCM/CS/M/S d- s++: a---- C++ UL++ P+ L++ E---- W++ N o? K- w-- o? !M V?
PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP++ t 5? X R tv-- b+++ DI+ D+ G++ e- h! !r y

Offline GB

  • LV4 Regular (Next: 200)
  • ****
  • Posts: 147
  • Rating: +15/-3
  • Use Microhard WindOS today!
    • View Profile
    • MICROHARD CORPORATION
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2011, 09:18:46 pm »
It looks like we're back to the drawing boards. Although I bet hacking 3.0.2 might be a little easier than hacking 1.1.
Logged
TI-86 USER
CASIO PRIZM USER
TI-NSPIRE USER
TI-84 PLUS SILVER EDITION USER
TI-83 PLUS USER

PROJECTS:

Microhard Paint
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?topic=11915.0

TI-Nspire Character Map
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?topic=7725.msg142555#msg142555

Offline DJ Omnimaga

  • Clacualters are teh gr33t
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV15 Omnimagician (Next: --)
  • *
  • Posts: 55943
  • Rating: +3154/-232
  • CodeWalrus founder & retired Omnimaga founder
    • View Profile
    • Dream of Omnimaga Music
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2011, 11:09:46 pm »
I'm starting to wonder about paid apps too, but on the other hand I think they're really up to eliminate calc gaming from the TI-Nspire line. It's clear they do, since they immediately retaliated with a stronger anti-downgrade protection after we found out how to bypass it.

If they allows paid apps in Lua, what if they take control of what is released or not? When games get uploaded on their server, they'll reject them all.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2011, 11:10:03 pm by DJ_O »
Logged

Offline willrandship

  • Omnimagus of the Multi-Base.
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2953
  • Rating: +98/-13
  • Insert sugar to begin programming subroutine.
    • View Profile
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2011, 11:28:46 pm »
I bet it won't be them hosting it, they'll probably have something like the App-Signing keys, where you buy one and have it for life, but it's expensive, and you need one for each app on the calc. (at least that's how I think it works :P)
Logged

Offline DJ Omnimaga

  • Clacualters are teh gr33t
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV15 Omnimagician (Next: --)
  • *
  • Posts: 55943
  • Rating: +3154/-232
  • CodeWalrus founder & retired Omnimaga founder
    • View Profile
    • Dream of Omnimaga Music
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2011, 11:54:53 pm »
Yeah that could be a possibility too. If it's like in 2000-2003 with 83+ apps, not a lot of people are gonna develop apps for the Nspire...
Logged

Offline aeTIos

  • Nonbinary computing specialist
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3915
  • Rating: +184/-32
    • View Profile
    • wank.party
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2011, 03:39:16 am »
I downloaded os 3.0.1 for this reason, but I'm not sure if it is really os 3.0.1. Can you run an OS with the NSpire emulator?
Logged
I'm not a nerd but I pretend:

Offline Levak

  • LV9 Veteran (Next: 1337)
  • *********
  • Posts: 1002
  • Rating: +208/-39
    • View Profile
    • My website
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2011, 04:09:48 am »
Yes, but be sure to download the lastest version (0.53 to my mind)
Logged
I do not get mad at people, I just want them to learn the way I learnt.
My website - TI-Planet - iNspired-Lua

Offline renatose

  • LV5 Advanced (Next: 300)
  • *****
  • Posts: 209
  • Rating: +4/-0
  • watch out the power balls
    • View Profile
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2011, 04:12:40 am »
The anti-downgrade protection is somewhat predictable. They don't want us to downgrade to OS 3.0.1 and brick our calculators: That would mean more expenses for them.

Quote from: critor on May 19, 2011, 06:16:53 pm
Check this: http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1109

If this tool is released for free then that could be a light at the end of the tunnel for this OS, anyway by now I'll stick with the OS 3.0.1 without boot2 and wait till something really good convinces me to upgrade. By now I can't see any reason since I can downgrade and use ndless again, ndoom was awesome and I don't want to close the doors of playing it forever.

So then is there something new which can make me see this 3.0.2 as a real upgrade?
Logged

Offline Lionel Debroux

  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2135
  • Rating: +290/-45
    • View Profile
    • TI-Chess Team
Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2011, 06:30:58 am »
Quote
So then is there something new which can make me see this 3.0.2 as a real upgrade?
Besides fixing the math bugs of OS 3.0.1 (but those did not exist on earlier OS) versions, no, AFAWCT.
Logged
Member of the TI-Chess Team.
Co-maintainer of GCC4TI (GCC4TI online documentation), TILP and TIEmu.
Co-admin of TI-Planet.
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 ... 7   Go Up
« previous next »