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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2011, 07:34:39 am »
Man, it is quite painful to read all of this.  I don't know what to say...  Programming is what truly makes graphing calculators worthwhile.
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2011, 07:37:46 am »
I'm hoping someone will make something to counter all this, as we all did before.
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2011, 08:06:26 am »
This does suck for all the Nspire owners and for those that put all the hard work into Ndless. Every day I am more and more thankful that I did not waste any money on an Nspire. I'll continue to support the old TI products (Z80 & 68k), and now my sexy new Casio Prizm. =)
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2011, 08:47:03 am »
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2011, 10:15:34 am »
Quote from: renatose on May 20, 2011, 04:12:40 am
The anti-downgrade protection is somewhat predictable. They don't want us to downgrade to OS 3.0.1 and brick our calculators: That would mean more expenses for them.

Quote from: critor on May 19, 2011, 06:16:53 pm
Check this: http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1109

If this tool is released for free then that could be a light at the end of the tunnel for this OS

As promised in the previous link, more information today:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1110
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2011, 10:28:45 am »
Quote from: critor on May 20, 2011, 10:15:34 am
Quote from: renatose on May 20, 2011, 04:12:40 am
The anti-downgrade protection is somewhat predictable. They don't want us to downgrade to OS 3.0.1 and brick our calculators: That would mean more expenses for them.

Quote from: critor on May 19, 2011, 06:16:53 pm
Check this: http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1109

If this tool is released for free then that could be a light at the end of the tunnel for this OS

As promised in the previous link, more information today:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1110
I don't understand... In what way is TI involved? And what does "- seul ce qui nous est directement fourni par TI est confidentiel: pour le reste, nous restons entièrement libres d'informer" mean? Google Translate doesn't translate it well.
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2011, 10:36:48 am »
Quote from: JosJuice on May 20, 2011, 10:28:45 am
Quote from: critor on May 20, 2011, 10:15:34 am
Quote from: renatose on May 20, 2011, 04:12:40 am
The anti-downgrade protection is somewhat predictable. They don't want us to downgrade to OS 3.0.1 and brick our calculators: That would mean more expenses for them.

Quote from: critor on May 19, 2011, 06:16:53 pm
Check this: http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1109

If this tool is released for free then that could be a light at the end of the tunnel for this OS

As promised in the previous link, more information today:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1110
I don't understand... In what way is TI involved?

Not sure if i can say more about that. I'm going to ask.

But if TI wants a public "clean" documentation about Lua, you should keep hope...


Quote from: JosJuice on May 20, 2011, 10:28:45 am
And what does "- seul ce qui nous est directement fourni par TI est confidentiel: pour le reste, nous restons entièrement libres d'informer" mean? Google Translate doesn't translate it well.

Without authorisation, we cannot share anything about what TI sends us (docs, tools...).

We remain totally free to share about things discovered by our own means, or by other people.
(to summarize very shortly...)

For now, this is only valid for Levak, AdRiWeB and me.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 10:38:26 am by critor »
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2011, 10:46:35 am »
Huh, okay. So the stuff I don't know about is the stuff that TI wants to keep secret...
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2011, 10:55:45 am »
Quote from: JosJuice on May 20, 2011, 10:46:35 am
Huh, okay. So the stuff I don't know about is the stuff that TI wants to keep secret...

For now, you know as much as us: we haven't received anything yet.


Keep hope about Lua in mid-term!

(unless you manage to "open" it through another way...)
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2011, 11:30:36 am »
But the tools from TI should be sent to us soon...

And btw... I don't think that it takes much time to just do like before, with 3.0.1, and when the program is done and releasable, just save it from the software, which is a matter of seconds, and this only have to be done one time...

So it's not *that* bad for devs...
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« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2011, 11:33:16 am »
Yes, but how do we obtain 3.0.1 of the computer software? TI doesn't supply it anymore, and we can't just rehost it - it's commercial software that you need to purchase...
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2011, 11:38:12 am »
Quote from: JosJuice on May 20, 2011, 11:33:16 am
Yes, but how do we obtain 3.0.1 of the computer software? TI doesn't supply it anymore, and we can't just rehost it - it's commercial software that you need to purchase...

And God invented TI-Bank
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=cat&id=Utilitaires+PC+Nspire
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2011, 11:38:35 am »
Quote from: JosJuice on May 20, 2011, 11:33:16 am
Yes, but how do we obtain 3.0.1 of the computer software? TI doesn't supply it anymore, and we can't just rehost it - it's commercial software that you need to purchase...

Unless this has been changed since yesterday evening, the 3.0.1 computer softwares are still hosted on TI web site and linked from TI-Bank.
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=cat&id=Utilitaires+PC+Nspire


Edit: Levak, cheater!!!! :P
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2011, 11:40:18 am »
I'm surprised at that. It's great that it's available...

Are we sure that the computer software handles files in the same way as the calc?
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Re: Nspire OS 3.0.2 Blocks Downgrading, Removes 3rd Party Lua - DO NOT UPGRADE!
« Reply #59 on: May 20, 2011, 01:00:03 pm »
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Are we sure that the computer software handles files in the same way as the calc?
Yes, we are :)
At least, no evidence to the contrary has been demonstrated so far, AFAIK.
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