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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2011, 03:32:39 pm »
Quote from: z80man on February 10, 2011, 08:22:24 pm
TI wouldn't give open asm support. It would be more like a limited c compiler sdk, but why would we even need this if we already have ndless.
Like what has been said before, C gets compiled to asm, so if TI has C support, they have no way to block asm. They could certainly disourage it, by not including asm tools in their SDK, but they can't block it.
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2011, 11:45:46 pm »
Does C allow someone to do every single things possible in ASM?
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2011, 11:53:23 pm »
I hope they open this calculator up more. It has a tremendous capability if we can program it (Ndless certainly helps)
Even though I will not update my OS before I know it is not some kind of an evil ploy by TI to block Ndless and games.

8ruler wishes very hard for a nice python programming for his Nspire
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2011, 11:55:35 pm »
My real concern, though, is that if they decide to release a SDK, will it be free? When they released the TI-83+ SDK (Flash Debugger) in 1999, it was not free until 2003 or so. Hence why almost all old ASM games on ticalc.org are not APPs.

Also I still hope for an Axe-like language (on-calc programmable) for the TI-Nspire
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2011, 11:58:23 pm »
That would be great but I still want it in a language I know
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2011, 03:57:59 am »
Do you mean the SDK? From what I gather, it would most likely be ARM ASM or C. As for Axe, it would be nice for 83+/Casio BASIC coders who can't stand C and 68k/nspire BASIC syntax.
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2011, 04:03:37 am »
Quote from: ruler501 on February 17, 2011, 11:53:23 pm
I hope they open this calculator up more. It has a tremendous capability if we can program it (Ndless certainly helps)
Even though I will not update my OS before I know it is not some kind of an evil ploy by TI to block Ndless and games.

8ruler wishes very hard for a nice python programming for his Nspire
Languages like python would be hard to implement because they are interpreted. Not that the nspire couldn't handle that, but it takes a lot of memory and is difficult to program. I would agree with DJ that an SDK would be either ASM or C. For a relatively simple device like a calculator you don't need very high level languages.   
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2011, 08:21:13 am »
Ruler will take a nice C/C++ Programming. That would be good
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2011, 08:50:22 am »
Quote from: DJ_O on February 17, 2011, 11:45:46 pm
Does C allow someone to do every single things possible in ASM?
I'm pretty sure there is asm subroutines.
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2011, 08:59:36 am »
There's no C equivalent for a number of low-level processor instructions. And even inline ASM is not enough in some cases (peculiar calling conventions, etc.).
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2011, 09:34:55 am »
Quote from: z80man on February 18, 2011, 04:03:37 am
Quote from: ruler501 on February 17, 2011, 11:53:23 pm
I hope they open this calculator up more. It has a tremendous capability if we can program it (Ndless certainly helps)
Even though I will not update my OS before I know it is not some kind of an evil ploy by TI to block Ndless and games.

8ruler wishes very hard for a nice python programming for his Nspire
Languages like python would be hard to implement because they are interpreted. Not that the nspire couldn't handle that, but it takes a lot of memory and is difficult to program. I would agree with DJ that an SDK would be either ASM or C. For a relatively simple device like a calculator you don't need very high level languages.   

You should preface that with "On an Nspire,"

I write Python for my TI-81 quite regularly.
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2011, 09:54:44 am »
Quote from: Lionel Debroux on February 18, 2011, 08:59:36 am
There's no C equivalent for a number of low-level processor instructions. And even inline ASM is not enough in some cases (peculiar calling conventions, etc.).
I just mean asm code that is typed inside a C program. A few many of the subroutines that come with ndless use that.
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2011, 02:47:29 pm »
Idk, perhaps it is a color nspire? With C and asm? Computer like resolution?
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2011, 09:34:55 pm »
Or maybe in response to complaints about OS 2.1 size, OS 3.0 will remove 84+ emulation. O.O
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Re: NSpire Rumors
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2011, 11:43:15 pm »
Casio and TI are teaming up to create a new graphing calc, with the most limited programming capabilities to date. It's going to be called the PrizN. Advertising will largely be targeted at educational institutions and will feature the slogan "Kids can't handle too much freedom. This semester, send them to a PrizN."
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