Author Topic: nTNOC: more free space on your Nspire & Ndless installation between calculators  (Read 23356 times)

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And I guess one should first send the files in the ndless folder to the other calc? (as in, ndless_resources.tns and this other one)
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Yes, or else (IIRC) you'll get a reboot loop.
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you accidentally double-posted.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2012, 07:24:50 am by aeTIos »
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You said its possible to send ndlessed OS' but it still doesn't work

You can send Ndlesses OSes between identical Nspire models, yes.

What doesn't work with you?

Well I still get the error when trying to send it to the Nspire of my friend

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did you actually run nTNOC?
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nTNOC is not meant to fix the Ndlessed OS.
If your OS is allready optimized, nTNOC won't fix it.

Better use nPatch if your goal is to fix Ndlessed OS:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10183
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I'm sending my friend the os over the official menu but i'm still getting the error that says check your cable he allready has got the ndless folder and yes i started it already the os is optimized

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If you've (re)installed Ndless after using nTNOC, then the OS footer is wrong again.

As the OS is allready optimized, nTNOC won't modify it again and so won't fix the footer again.


Just use nPatch:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10183
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 01:37:45 pm by critor »
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I just got a new TI-Nspire Touchpad Non-CAS today, and I installed Ndless. I ran this first to free space. It ended up deleting my OS... I tried it again. And again. It gave me the same results. Any ideas? For now I'm using the PC version of TNOC.
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I just got a new TI-Nspire Touchpad Non-CAS today, and I installed Ndless. I ran this first to free space. It ended up deleting my OS... I tried it again. And again. It gave me the same results. Any ideas?

Might be a poblem of nTNOC running out of free space - as you've got a non-CX Nspire.
I thought I had dealt with this problem - will have a look again.
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But the weird thing is that it didn't give me an "Install Operating System Now" message when I reset the calc, it just hung on the "Loading Operating System..." message, it just stayed at about 50% through the progress bar. I had to delete the OS through the maintenance menu. Does that help at all?
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This is a situation, mostly hypothetical. If you upgraded your TI-nspire Clickpad from 1.4 to 3.1 without using TNOC first, but then you can install ndless, nTNOC can't remove the 3.x boot2 can it? So then I don't know how you can avoid using TNOC without resorting to installing TI's 3.x boot2.
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But the weird thing is that it didn't give me an "Install Operating System Now" message when I reset the calc, it just hung on the "Loading Operating System..." message, it just stayed at about 50% through the progress bar. I had to delete the OS through the maintenance menu. Does that help at all?

It seems like that: nTNOC ran out of space, and has generated a truncated OS file.
nTNOC should have been fixed against this issue.

When did you download it?
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This is a situation, mostly hypothetical. If you upgraded your TI-nspire Clickpad from 1.4 to 3.1 without using TNOC first, but then you can install ndless, nTNOC can't remove the 3.x boot2 can it? So then I don't know how you can avoid using TNOC without resorting to installing TI's 3.x boot2.

nTNOC doesn't remove the Boot2 from the Flash.
It does remove it from the OS file which is stored on the handheld in /phoenix/install/TI-Nspire.tnc.
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So you can safely install unmodified OS and then use nTNOC to remove the boot2 from the OS?
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