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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #60 on: March 04, 2012, 03:43:11 pm »
Well, Lua allows for gaming, yet the Nspire has Lua (well a stripped-down, and significantly two-way incompatible proprietary form thereof - but Lua nonetheless) :)
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #61 on: March 04, 2012, 03:44:18 pm »
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However, I am not sure if that would make them change their mind.
Rather, I am sure that it would not make them change their mind ;)
Agreed - gaming is probably on the teacher's "no-no" list, so it is probably on TI's too. :P

From what I've seen during the T3 conference, it depends what kind of gaming :P
Sure, nDoom is probably not the best option :D

But things like TI-basket or any other game that could involve math and/or physics inside, can interest TI and the teachers, really.

That's also why they did the physics engine : having realistic simulations of physical stuff hapenning, in order to better studies real-life cases :)
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2012, 04:48:55 pm »
Don't be too fast at saying nDoom is not interesting for teachers.

Anybody wondering  how it works is going to find out very interesting trigonometry equations :)
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #63 on: March 04, 2012, 04:54:49 pm »

Don't be too fast at saying nDoom is not interesting for teachers.

Anybody wondering  how it works is going to find out very interesting trigonometry equations :)
And all kinds of weird hacks for lightning fast mathematical functions and whatnot.
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #64 on: March 04, 2012, 05:04:36 pm »

Don't be too fast at saying nDoom is not interesting for teachers.

Anybody wondering  how it works is going to find out very interesting trigonometry equations :)
And all kinds of weird hacks for lightning fast mathematical functions and whatnot.


@Critor and @hoffa, oh well, yes, maybe you're right :D
but it's not the core of the game (the point of the game, rather)
but yes, definitely interesting :P
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2012, 06:06:44 pm »
Makes me wonder--and no offense to anyone--if teachers decide to stop buying TI products because TI fails to stop the community, what will happen?

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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2012, 06:08:47 pm »
Makes me wonder--and no offense to anyone--if teachers decide to stop buying TI products because TI fails to stop the community, what will happen?
I really doubt that a small niche-interest community is going to turn-off schools across the country.
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #67 on: March 05, 2012, 07:29:14 pm »
My calculus teacher doesn't care about gaming as long as I do my work. :D
Also, my teacher is the "special" case who actually programs TI-BASIC for 84+SE! XD
(And frequently bothers me with questions <_<)
My teacher thinks ndless is cool so she actually bought cx to play pac-man (NES)
I wish there are more teacher like this. D:
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2012, 07:33:47 pm »
Wow, your teacher is awesome. In my classes, if we take out our calcs without a valid reason, we get them taken. I still play games on mine, but I can't play them during class. Of course our study hall teacher lets us play games on the computers and on any other device as long as we are finished with our work.
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #69 on: March 05, 2012, 08:57:16 pm »
Os 3.2 has got me really thinking about giving up ndless. I am currently still using os 2.0 with oslauncher, gbc4nspire, and mviewer. I heavily depend on oslauncher ( I promise, I don't cheat. In my school we don't take test that don't allow cas.) because I accidently bought the non-cas nspire and wasn't about to sell it and by the cas. But the improvements brought along in os 3.2, the built in conics, x=plots, and the chemical equations just might make me give up ndless, but it'll be tough.....or I could just buy as cx cas with os 3.2 ::)

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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2012, 09:00:01 pm »
DON'T UPDATE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU ARE PRESSURED! AN NSPIRE CAS IS A WASTE OF MONEY WHEN YOU HAVE OSLAUNCHER!
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2012, 09:18:13 pm »
It really is a dilemna if you need oslauncher for the CAS, otherwise I'd easily say just update to 3.1.0.392. You could buy a CX CAS with 3.2 and then hope ndless gets on there some other way. I'm sticking with 3.1 for now, the little OS improvements shall not tempt me enough for me to give up gbc4nspire...

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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2012, 11:24:46 pm »
I'm sorry for replying in a somewhat old thread, but has the new OS been released yet? Or is it due to come out soon? I was thinking of buying a CX and putting Ndless on it, but I need to know if I still can. :P

I hope I'm not being thick, I just couldn't tell by looking at the OP.

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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2012, 11:32:47 pm »
My calculus teacher doesn't care about gaming as long as I do my work. :D
Also, my teacher is the "special" case who actually programs TI-BASIC for 84+SE! XD
(And frequently bothers me with questions <_<)
My teacher thinks ndless is cool so she actually bought cx to play pac-man (NES)
I wish there are more teacher like this. D:
There is even a teacher here that sometimes borrowed student's calcs to play games :P

Also welcome here AceCombat. The OS isn't out yet so you should hopefully be safe, but I think it will most likely be out somewhere this Spring or Summer. That's unless brand new calcs now already have a pre-release of 3.2 or something, though. In case, you could buy it on Ebay or something.
DON'T UPDATE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU ARE PRESSURED! AN NSPIRE CAS IS A WASTE OF MONEY WHEN YOU HAVE OSLAUNCHER!
That said even if people don't update, OSLauncher was purposely made incompatible with Ndless 3.1 to discourage people from using it anyway, to convince TI that we're not out to allow people to cheat in tests, even though it might still not be enough to convince them to stop blocking Ndless.

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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #74 on: March 08, 2012, 01:42:39 am »
No, OSLauncher was not made purposely incompatible with Ndless 3.1 ;)
The incompatibility is on TI's side: they changed the dialog box function exposed by Ndless. The modification was propagated by Ndless, which was the appropriate thing to do - and for compilation against the Ndless 3.1 SDK, the Ndless 2.0 version of OSLauncher for OS 1.7.2741 / 2.0.1.60 / 2.1.0.631 needs a modification in the source code :)
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