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Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: critor on August 11, 2012, 12:35:17 pm

Title: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: critor on August 11, 2012, 12:35:17 pm: In a previous news (http://ourl.ca/16734), we learned together how to transform your TI-Nspire CX into a TI-Nspire CX-C and how to install the chinese-english dictionnary OS extension.
(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/13/23/13/53/08-08-17.png)

Some of you asked us how much space the dictionnary was taking. Let's finally answer that question today.

TI-Nspire OS extensions like the dictionnary are installed in a hidden part of the filesystem, the root folder "/extension":
(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/13/23/13/53/08-10-11.png)

As you can see, it takes 4.4MB.

Once you've finished playing with the chinese dictionnary, you'll probably ask yourself how to uninstall it and recover those 4.4MB free space.

And now, you just read that in the TI-Nspire CX-C guidebook (http://education.ti.com/downloads/guidebooks/ti-nspire/3.2/TI-NspireCX-C_and_CM-C_Handheld_Getting_Started/TI-Nspire_CX-C_CM-C_GettingStarted_EN.pdf), page 19:
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Note: After the dictionary is installed, it cannot be deleted.

What?... Is it a joke?... ???
What's the point into handling OS extensions which can never be removed?

Calm down! ;)
What's stated in the guidebook is wrong to begin with:, you can perfectly remove the dictionnary with a whole filesystem reformat through the maintenance menu.
I perfectly know you won't like this solution so let's go on! ;)

Ndless programs have access to the whole filesystem. So, creating a Ndless tool which would cleanup the "/extension" folder content is perfectly possible.
But guess what? It won't even be necessary! :P

Digging into the TI-Nspire OS, Levak has found something...
A dictionnary uninstallation program, launched by a specific dialog box! ;D(http://www.omnimaga.org/Themes/default/images/gpbp_arrow_up.gif)
(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/13/23/13/53/08-11-10.png)

We don't understand why but it's an orphan dialog box: it's not called from any OS menu or shortcut.
But don't worry, you've now got an Ndless tool, delDico, which will launch this dialog box and let you remove the dictionnary on your TI-Nspire CX or TI-Nspire CX-C. ;D(http://www.omnimaga.org/Themes/default/images/gpbp_arrow_up.gif)

The only remaining question is now... "WHY ?!!!" ???

Source:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10220

Download:
delDico (http://tiplanet.org/forum/archives_voir.php?id=6653)
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: Levak on August 11, 2012, 01:00:26 pm: Hey, this is crazy, I just made that, but here is my post, so +1 me maybe !
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: Adriweb on August 11, 2012, 01:02:50 pm: Very nice addition if space is an issue !

Quote from: Levak on August 11, 2012, 01:00:26 pm
Hey, this is crazy, I just made that, but here is my post, so +1 me maybe !
Spoiler For Spoiler:
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG)
/me runs
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: critor on August 11, 2012, 01:02:59 pm: Quote from: Levak on August 11, 2012, 01:00:26 pm
Hey, this is crazy, I just made that, but here is my post, so +1 me maybe !

You've allready reached +122 Total Post Ratings.
Don't you think that's enough ? ;)
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: Jim Bauwens on August 11, 2012, 01:27:24 pm: Nice :)
Maybe TI forgot to add a link to the remove popup ?
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: critor on August 11, 2012, 01:29:42 pm: Quote from: Jim Bauwens on August 11, 2012, 01:27:24 pm
Nice :)
Maybe TI forgot to add a link to the remove popup ?

But if they had just "forgotten", they wouldn't have stated in the guidebook that you can't remove the dictionnary...
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: Jim Bauwens on August 11, 2012, 01:34:11 pm: Because the people who wrote the book noticed they couldn't uninstall it, wrote it in the dev version of the manual, and forgot to mention it to the developers.
:P
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: Sorunome on August 11, 2012, 02:26:27 pm: that would be very very stupid of ti :P
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: Hayleia on August 11, 2012, 02:53:34 pm: Quote from: Sorunome on August 11, 2012, 02:26:27 pm
that would be very very stupid of ti :P
I see you don't own a Nspire, else you be used to it ;)

Also that is great news, I was hesitating to try the dictionnary, knowing that deleting it would be an issue ~~and that I need space for GBA roms~~ but now everything is perfect :)
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: TIfanx1999 on August 11, 2012, 02:55:20 pm: Nice work guys! It is indeed very odd that there is an option built in to delete the dictionary, but no way to access it...
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: Spacetime4.0 on August 11, 2012, 07:20:22 pm: That really is kinda weird to have the uninstallation software and don't create a link to it and say in the manual "UNREMOVABLE" :o
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 11, 2012, 07:24:19 pm: I liked this when I saw this on TI-Planet earlier. Hopefully we can remove other stuff too without harming our OS install. I sure doubt I would need dutch, german and the like, for example, if that's removable, and it would be great if I could free up every bit of memory I can if I decide to install the GBA emu on my calc, since my memory will fill up quite fast. :D
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: Spacetime4.0 on August 11, 2012, 07:40:33 pm: I guess the devs are the ones making Ti's products worthwhile. If it wasn't for them I guess our os's would be loaded with bloatware that not even Ti knows how to remove.
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: apcalc on August 12, 2012, 08:28:02 am: Once again, great work! :)
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: critor on August 12, 2012, 08:18:46 pm: Quote from: DJ_O on August 11, 2012, 07:24:19 pm
I liked this when I saw this on TI-Planet earlier. Hopefully we can remove other stuff too without harming our OS install. I sure doubt I would need dutch, german and the like, for example, if that's removable

Your wish is my command. :P

Release tomorrow - prepare for a big surprise ;)
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: critor on August 13, 2012, 10:42:58 am: nCleaner has just been released, as promised.

Combine it with nTNOC and get the maximum free space on your TI-Nspire by removing useless files in hidden system folders!

(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/13/23/13/53/nclean15.png)

(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/13/23/13/53/nclean16.png)

(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/13/23/13/53/nclean17.png)

Download:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/archives_voir.php?id=6656

News (in french for now):
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10225

I'm going to news on Omnimaga soon.
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: critor on August 13, 2012, 04:31:08 pm: Quote from: DJ_O on August 11, 2012, 07:24:19 pm
I liked this when I saw this on TI-Planet earlier. Hopefully we can remove other stuff too without harming our OS install. I sure doubt I would need dutch, german and the like, for example, if that's removable, and it would be great if I could free up every bit of memory I can if I decide to install the GBA emu on my calc, since my memory will fill up quite fast. :D

Your requested tool, is now available in the Omnimaga news:
http://ourl.ca/16787

Enjoy breaking the limits! :P
Title: Re: Size and uninstallation of the Nspire CX-C dictionnary
Post by: Jonius7 on October 16, 2012, 11:30:30 pm: Does this mean you can use nCleaner instead of delDico? i.e. nCleaner does everything delDico does and more?