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SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« on: August 21, 2010, 03:20:51 am »
From now on, SpyBot45 will only notify our #omnimaga IRC (and OmnomIRC) users of new posts in Omnimaga forums. Until tonight, it also did United-TI and Cemetech. It also used to do TI-Freakware and MaxCoderz, but were later disabled due to errors.

The reason why Cemetech and United-TI feeds were disabled were mostly due to bandwidth issues and decreased reliability of the bot in the process. Another reason is that with about 300-500 posts being reported per day for Cemetech and Omnimaga combined, it was starting to make #omnimaga channel and especially OmnomIRC extremly hard to use, especially during busy periods. It came to the point where some people simply stopped using #omnimaga for discussion or set the bot on their ignored user list, no longer getting anymore notifications, even from Omnimaga. This also made the logs very hard to read.

So in summary, from now on, SpyBot45 will only notify our IRC/OmnomIRC users of new posts on Omnimaga forums. We are sorry for the inconveniences this might cause.

Since Cemetech IRC channel already had a similar service for their website for several years, those who want to continue getting notified of new posts there can always join their channel or use their chatbox. Keep in mind that we do not hold responsible for what content can be posted outside our channel and forums, though.

UPDATE: (Aug 23rd 2010) KermMartian has finally put saxjax in our channel with limited functionalities (only post notifications), so basically if you do not want to see notifications for one of the websites, you do not have to disable all notices for both site. All you do is type "/ignore botname" for the bot you wish to hide messages from. This should also split bandwidth usage between both sites and make the Omnimaga bot development much easier. There are also chances that SpyBot45 will be replaced by another bot.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2010, 02:34:47 pm by DJ Omnimaga »

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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2010, 12:17:56 pm »
That's understandable. A lot of the time I'll look at OmnomIRC and see only SpyBot messages x.x
Plus it eliminates having to be reminded of a new post on cemetech twice. :)
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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2010, 07:18:04 pm »
Sorry to hear about this; I felt it was a good service in bringing the two sites closer together.



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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2010, 08:10:24 pm »
yeah, it's a bit sad, but it is a justifiable reason

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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2010, 08:20:45 pm »
Could a link to Cemetech be added somewhere on the site, then? You see, what I've been doing was to go to Omnimaga, then use a link in OmnomIRC to jump to Cemetech in a new tab. It more convenient than opening two tabs and going to both sites...



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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2010, 10:49:22 pm »
I thought about having a link to other forums on our front page. We already kinda have a Cemetech link, but it's not directly to the site front page, but rather Source Coder 2 (in the MISC page) If I add a link section it would be located in a block below the top posters and the radio link. I am not sure about which forum besides Cemetech, TIBD, UTI and TI-BANK to include, yet, though. Ticalc.org is going there, that's for sure.

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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2010, 02:10:33 pm »
Ooh, just noticed today that saxjax is on #omnimaga. That's a good idea :)




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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2010, 02:28:35 pm »
Yeah and apparently SpyBot45 might go into Cemetech channel but I wasn't sure. It should split the bandwidth costs between both sites, plus, since both notifiers are separate, if you absolutely don't want to see Cemetech notices or if you don't post on Omni much and only want Cemetech notices, you just have to ignore one of teh bot, without having to ignore both site notifications at once.

As for UTI, I have doubts the feed will ever come back because just UTI alone took half of the bandwidth, even thought it checked for new posts 20 times less often than Cemetech. The reason why is because UTI has no RSS feed so the bot needed to reload the active topics page every 5 minutes, while for Cemetech/Omni, all that had to be reloaded was a tiny RSS feed.

Also there are chances that SpyBot45 is replaced with another bot by Alberthro, but it's not confirmed yet.

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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2010, 03:44:54 pm »
but some people dont know how to use IRC, and cemetech doesnt have a java chat....

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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2010, 03:51:11 pm »
I will probably try to find a way to spread the word about /ignore feature, to make sure new people know faster

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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2010, 03:54:59 pm »
I think this was a good update. :)
Thanks to all involved! :D

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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2010, 10:00:06 am »
SpyBot45's been replaced by OmnomBot, a bot that alberthro wrote. I'm currently hosting it for #Cemetech and #Omnimaga.

On another note, I've done a few bugfixes for OmnomIRC, mainly with how it parses colors. It should look a little cleaner, and I removed that pesky '<' that was always showing up on the first line. Also, posts now just show on their own, I've removed the <saxjax> and <OmnomBot> tags infront of the post names.

Edit: OmnomIRC now resets 270 seconds after the last message sent, instead of 270 seconds after it's loaded.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2010, 10:45:43 am by Netham45 »
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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2010, 10:49:09 am »
Edit: OmnomIRC now resets 270 seconds after the last message sent, instead of 270 seconds after it's loaded.
Yea!  Nice job. ;D

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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2010, 01:24:16 pm »
Excelent, nice updates Netham and Alberthro!  And thats also neat to hear about the bandwidth sharing, and the features it enables :)

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Re: SpyBot45 Cemetech & UTI notifications disabled
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2010, 01:25:26 pm »
Excelent, nice updates Netham and Alberthro!  And thats also neat to hear about the bandwidth sharing, and the features it enables :)
And Kerm? :P ;)