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The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« on: September 14, 2011, 05:21:45 pm »
Some days ago, TI publised a 3.1 firmware update for the TI-Nspire LabStation cradle.
The TLO file was including a Nspire compatible OS (can be run on Goplat's emulator but won't show anything on the screen) and a Boot2.
More details were published on TI-Planet:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8169
So the TI-Nspire LabStation cradle is a true TI-Nspire calculator, but with no screen and no keypad.

And the question was... Do other TI-Nspire peripherals work the same way?


I have discovered that the TI-Nspire ViewScreen panel uses an OS. And I have proof that it also uses a Boot2, a Boot1, and a diagnostics software. And guess what? The Boot2 and the diagnostic software are flashable too!

So the TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true TI-Nspire calculator, but without the keypad. Opening it should reveal an Nspire-like PCB.

We should now try to find out how to dump it, as no firmware update was ever released publicly by TI.


Check the exclusive photos on TI-Planet:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8201
« Last Edit: September 14, 2011, 05:29:24 pm by critor »
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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 07:51:27 pm »
oh wow. That is cool!

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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 09:38:30 pm »
Why didn't ti just put hardware to push the lcd contents through the usb port like they did with the 84. A full nspire in a viewscreen seems like overkill, could mean interesting possibilities though.
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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 02:25:07 am »
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Why didn't ti just put hardware to push the lcd contents through the usb port like they did with the 84+
Even on the more powerful Nspire, for performance reasons, it makes sense for them to put some hardware on the Nspire side for accelerating the copy to the USB B port, connected to the A (host) port of the ViewScreen.

Chances are that reflashing occurs through the USB B (device) port of the ViewScreen.
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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 03:32:05 am »
Interesting :)
Maybe the TI Nspire navigator is also a Nspire calculator.
I know that the TI Navigator (non nspire) runs Linux, so maybe there is a little change that its an nspire platform (hardware), but the software is Linux.
That is at least what I'm wishing :p

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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 03:48:49 am »
How about nDOOM on the ViewScreen ? :) But maybe 2 buttons aren't enough.
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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2011, 12:10:15 am »
Wow!  Great find!  While it does make sense that they use similar hardware on the viewscreen side, it seems like a bit of overkill.  :P
Hopefully this will give us new insight on the Nspire hardware and or boot code.  :)
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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 02:07:29 pm »
Interesting stuff Critor. :)

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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 05:23:35 pm »
Thank you all for your enthusiast posts :)


Another minor discovery: the Nspire ViewScreen is only able to handle 4-bits screen data.
When connected to a CX (16-bits data), you're getting garbage. Check the photo:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8212
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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2011, 10:24:37 pm »
Wow, that is also a very intriguing discovery!
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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2011, 09:54:46 am »
Nice discovery right there, thanks!

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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2011, 04:49:34 pm »
Quite strange.

The TI-Nspire ViewScreen has 2 USB connectors: USB(A) & USB(B).
And if plugged on a computer, it is detected as a "TI-84 Plus Presentation Link"...


Check the test:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=116702#p116702


Any idea?...
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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2011, 12:44:06 am »
Hmm weird. Have you found any more info on this?

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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2011, 01:31:46 am »
interesting. I suppose this makes for less linking code? TI  is lazy :P
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Re: The TI-Nspire ViewScreen is a true Nspire too!
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2011, 02:27:13 pm »
Hmm weird. Have you found any more info on this?

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