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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2010, 12:48:44 pm »
Wait, what about TI-83+?

Edit:
Also, TI-84+BE is still in production? I guess this isn't quite as bad as I thought

Yes, TI-83+BE and TI-84+BE are still in production... for now.


But after the TI-84+SE, just try to guess which calculator is going to be disontinued next...
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2010, 01:20:40 pm »
Yeah, that move sucks, but it makes perfect sense for them to be able to further shovel the Nspire onto the users' throats...
Since the Nspire can't become the community's sweetheart on its intrinsic qualities (because it's expensive and limited by their locking down of the platform, even if it's getting forcefully opened by the open development community with great results), then let's kill all other models that compete with it... starting with the 84+SE, then the 84+BE - i.e. the models with direct USB, leaving the 83+ BE and respawns of the old TI-Z80 design (TI-76.fr, etc.) on the low end of the market.
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2010, 01:40:55 pm »
What!

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2010, 02:04:24 pm »
Heh. I don't think the TI-83 Plus model is going anywhere anytime soon. Removing that off their product lines would alienate too much of its userbase and potential users. I'm talking about those who are comfortable using the Ti-83 Plus graphing calculator and the various institutions that will not teach how to use other sorts of graphing calcs (probably because they don't know anything else?) I will not believe the idea that the Nspire will fully replace the Ti-83 Plus, even if for the simple reason that it just does not look like a TI-83 Plus.

The TI-84 Plus (SE) however was more like an upgrade to the TI-83 Plus that can easily (from their standpoint) be replaced by the other thing with similar (emulated) specs. They can afford to move their product line "forward" toward the Nspire much like how they did it to the TI-83 Plus SE toward the TI-84 Plus (SE)

While I do not support the move, I do see the logic behind them discontinuing the TI-84 Plus (SE) model. Nothing's gonna happen with the Ti-83 Plus calc.

I'm just a little unhappy by these discontinuations, because the E:SoR project kinda relies on the extra hardware that's found in the 83+SE/84+(SE) calcs. CaDan, not so much.
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2010, 02:33:39 pm »
NOOOOOOOO! I refuse to beleive it!


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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2010, 03:13:07 pm »
WHAT!?

grrrrrrrrr

TI just makes worse and worse decisions...though it's not as bad as if they removed the z80 line completely. Although I guess this marks the beginning of the end :(

Although like Iambian said, z80 shouldn't be going anywhere too fast. Most of the people I know at school (teachers included) haven't even heard of the nspire, and pretty much every textbook and course written so far for higher math uses the 83+ series :\

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2010, 03:14:30 pm »
Maybe I could ease the pain by making a proper 84+SE emulator for Nspire :)
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2010, 03:17:38 pm »
that would be nice

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2010, 03:23:05 pm »
Maybe I could ease the pain by making a proper 84+SE emulator for Nspire :)

It would be great.

I must still have a binary of your 83+ emulator somewhere...
Can it be of any use to you ?
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2010, 03:28:27 pm »
Well, I think I would rather start from scratch. These days I prefer having organized code, which is something a disassembly certainly won't provide for me :)

Who knows, I might make it in part C, part ASM this time.
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2010, 03:32:09 pm »
calc84maniac: yeah, this brand-new move by TI makes it even more obvious that we need ASAP independent, fast and accurate TI-Z80 and TI-68k emulators running on both Nspire CAS and Nspire non-CAS. Many people in the programming community would be eager to help you for testing, and the number of users thanking you would be enormous.
But this time, please make frequent backups of your sources, eh ? ;)
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2010, 03:42:57 pm »
umm wow ti is really stupid
.... i dont know what to say kinda just in disbelief now cause its also there best selling calc to school all we have in our schools is 84+se s :/

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2010, 03:46:45 pm »
I have an old TI-83+ Black Edition. Maybe I can trade it for an 84+SE for someone who doesn't care at all about calcs... it works fine except the link port is broken. For someone who doesn't care about programming or gaming, maybe that would be okay...

You can still buy 84+SEs off Amazon for now.



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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2010, 03:58:00 pm »
People would still know it's supposed to be better than the 83+, though...




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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2010, 04:05:47 pm »
THis really sucks. It surprises me, as I was convinced it's the 83+ that would stop being produced in the near future, or it would be a replacement to the 73 and 82 STATS.

TO be honest, though, in Quebec, a TI-84+SE costs $177 and a TI-Nspire $185. Check the ridiculously small price difference. Given that the Nspire got much higher specs than the 84+SE (and TI-84 Plus SE compatibility, although they no longer provide the keypad with it), I am sure a lot of people probably opted for the cheaper 84+ or the Nspire instead. In 2009, this is what I did, myself. I had the choice between a 84+SE and a TI-Nspire and have chosen the TI-Nspire.

I seriously hope the 84+ will remain produced, though. TI really have no choice, seriously. Over here A TI-83+ costs $140 from October to early August and $124 at the beginning of the school year and a TI-84 Plus $150. Not every parent and student are in a financial situation to spend almost $200 on a calc, so they would rather save a few more bucks.

I wonder if there should be a petition or something to convince TI to keep the 84+ under production?
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