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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2010, 05:31:06 pm »
Yeah, $0.05 is a lot for a company like TI. They'll suffer from extreme money loss.

What I think that might happen with the 83+ if it remains around is that the TI-73 might get discontinued and the TI-83 Plus will replace it, with a MathPrint OS that runs 3 times slower than the 84+SE one. Otherwise, I don't see how the 73 will stay around much longer. I bet this calc won't sell too well. Heck, TI-81 stuff gets more downloads than TI-73 stuff on ticalc.org! http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/statscat.html

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2010, 05:32:05 pm »
Well I don't support this at all, this is a really dumb move on TI's part. But I agree with Iambian, I see where they are coming from, possibly, and see the reasoning behind it. However the "lesser" Z80 calculators will not be going anytime soon, no matter how much they want to push the Nspire. I mean there are thousands of schools and institutions that use them and they would lose a big community of buyers if they did. Plus most schools won't be able to really spend that much money on Nspires, along with teachers not wanting to learn how to use them.

If there is anything we can do it would probably be a petition that shows how many people actually want this calculator to remain. Even if it is just the TI community that supports them, that's still a good chunk of people. Plus you can always advertise to your math classes and such. If TI saw the demand for them they might be willing to start making them again.

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2010, 05:34:01 pm »
Isn't the TI-83+SE also discontinued?
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2010, 05:37:24 pm »
Yeah it was discontinued immediately when the 84+SE came out. The TI-83+SE is the calc that was sold for the shortest amount of time by TI, and the reason why today there are people who don't even know it ever existed at all.

As for a petition I think it might be good to spread the word among as many schools as possible if it looks like TI is gonna discontinue the rest of the z80 line.

That said, one thing that gives me hopes that the 84+ may remain around for a bit is the fact a new OS came out only 6 months ago. I am worried about the TI-89T and v200, though :(

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2010, 05:39:06 pm »
I wonder if they will officially release the OS signing key when they discontinue it.  That would be nice.

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2010, 05:40:46 pm »
I am fairly sure they won't, but maybe they will not care as much if people publishes them

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2010, 05:42:13 pm »
Oooo, I would love to see the specs on the USB port.  I say we start a petition to send to them, asking them to release the specs now that they are discontinued.

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2010, 05:42:45 pm »
Oh right, that might be actually useful. Good luck, still, though.

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2010, 05:43:58 pm »
I've just checked all TI web pages.

List of TI web pages showing the TI-84+SE as discontinued:
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/DEUTSCHLAND/productDetail/de_ti84pse.html
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/SCHWEIZ/productDetail/chg_ti84pse.html
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/SUISSE/productDetail/chf_ti84pse.html
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/OESTERREICH/productDetail/at_ti84pse.html

List of TI web pages not showing the TI-84+SE any more:
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/AUS-NZ/sectionHome/aus-nz_product_graphing.html
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/DANMARK/productCategory/dk_graphing.html
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/ESPANA/productCategory/es_graphing.html
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/SVERIGE/productCategory/se_graphing.html

Among the 4 web pages not listing the TI-84+SE anymore, according to the Internet WayBack machine, 3 of them used to list it:
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/DANMARK/productCategory/dk_graphing.html
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/ESPANA/productCategory/es_graphing.html
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/SVERIGE/productCategory/se_graphing.html

So they just removed it, without explaining it was discontinued.


As for the last page, I just couldn't find a cached version:
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/AUS-NZ/sectionHome/aus-nz_product_graphing.html


So on at least 7 official TI web pages in the world, the TI-84+SE has either been marked as discontinued, either been removed from the available models list.
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2010, 05:44:57 pm »
Well... To be honest... TI should discontinue the entire Z80 line with the exception of the TI-84+... then reduce its price to be inline with the cost of the TI-83+.

What is the purpose of the TI-83+ any longer? It is basically equivalent to the TI-84+. And the TI-73 is almost worthless. No need to keep the manufacturing lines up for these older model calcs... it cost money. TI could pass the savings on to consumers.
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2010, 05:49:52 pm »
Yeah I agree that they could easily decrease the price of the 84+ and replace the 83+ with it. They probably keep the 83+ around because they want to make money from the 84+, still.

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2010, 05:50:10 pm »
As far as the Nspire goes. If the z80 line does get completely discontinued. I would imagine that the Nspire would start getting cracked as fast as new iPod OS's. I mean, imagine if every person in this community was working with the Nspire. There would be quite a few who just want to make programs and such, but there would also be quite a few devoted to cracking it. Imagine if brandonW was devoted to cracking the Nspire. :P
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2010, 05:54:07 pm »
As far as the Nspire goes. If the z80 line does get completely discontinued. I would imagine that the Nspire would start getting cracked as fast as new iPod OS's. I mean, imagine if every person in this community was working with the Nspire. There would be quite a few who just want to make programs and such, but there would also be quite a few devoted to cracking it. Imagine if brandonW was devoted to cracking the Nspire. :P

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2010, 05:55:01 pm »
I seriously doubt it.

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2010, 05:56:54 pm »
I really like that new TI-Inspire with the QWERTY keyboard... That is friggin' awesome.
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