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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #90 on: September 30, 2010, 11:26:52 pm »
This has got to be the coolest looking calculator in the world!...

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #91 on: September 30, 2010, 11:28:24 pm »
But does it blend?
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #92 on: September 30, 2010, 11:29:58 pm »
But does it blend?
Probably not...

Now they just need to get a good BASIC language and LED backlighting for it.
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #93 on: September 30, 2010, 11:33:34 pm »
yeah, they are trying everything to beat TI, but schools all use TI, TI had a headstart.  You know, If TI had more competition, their calcs would be a lot better.  besides, there really isn't much of a Casio or HP calc community.

I've noticed. That said, excluding these forums and TIcalc, there isn't much of a TI community to speak of either. But I have found some HP programs useful as the language is almost identical to TI-BASIC.


EDIT: Is there any way to work around the lack of BASIC user input for the Nspire in Assembly?
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #94 on: September 30, 2010, 11:56:38 pm »
Well, from what I noticed, when I joined, there were like two active boards and small inactive ones, then more large boards appeared, but then the community died and when it picked up again, we returned with only 2 active english forums (Omni and Cemetech). As for Casio, it was never as active as the TI community, except maybe for a short while in 2008, but that was because the TI community was so inactive.

As for the Nspire, I personally dislike the look of the blue and gray ones. I don't mind the look of the Touchpad ones, though, despite the fact they are huge.

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #95 on: September 30, 2010, 11:56:51 pm »
We can always write our own BASIC.

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #96 on: September 30, 2010, 11:58:29 pm »
We can always write our own BASIC.

Mmh, true! Maybe kinda like BBCBasic?




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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #97 on: October 01, 2010, 02:20:55 am »
It would be nice if someone wrote something like TI-83+ BASIC for the Nspire and/or Axe, so Nspire dev have a wider audience than just C and ASM programmers. BBC Basic would be nice, too, as long as the editor is user-friendly.

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #98 on: October 01, 2010, 02:51:23 am »
It would be nice if someone wrote something like TI-83+ BASIC for the Nspire and/or Axe, so Nspire dev have a wider audience than just C and ASM programmers. BBC Basic would be nice, too, as long as the editor is user-friendly.
Wait, the nSpire codes in C?
If so, ima go buy one!

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #99 on: October 01, 2010, 02:55:25 am »
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Wait, the nSpire codes in C?
Yes. We've been able to program in C for about ten years on the TI-68k platform; three years after the introduction of the Nspire platform, it was high time that Ndless + the various ARM toolchains out there (e.g. YAGARTO) enabled programming in C on the Nspire platform :)
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #100 on: October 01, 2010, 02:57:14 am »
But at what speed does it function?
More ASM-like or does it still slack like basic?

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #101 on: October 01, 2010, 03:02:42 am »
Definitely ASM-like, since C is compiled to assembly. Of course, humans can do better than the compiler, but at the cost of significantly increased development and debugging time (3x-5x).
On platforms powerful enough, due to the "80/20 rule" (i.e. the heuristic fact that in most programs, ~80% of the time is spent in ~20% of the code - sometimes it's 70% of the time in 30% of the code, sometimes it's 90% of the time in 10% of the code, but you get the idea), full ASM makes perfect sense for several CPU-intensive bits of the program, but less sense for others.
On the TI-68k platform, for example, graphical libraries are usually written in ASM, and most of their client programs are written in C.
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #102 on: October 01, 2010, 03:04:55 am »
Ah, I see.
Then im wondering, why are there so many people requesting basic for the nSpire?

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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #103 on: October 01, 2010, 03:14:03 am »
Because programming in BASIC is easier than programming in C, and the Nspire's built-in BASIC sucks: four years after the introduction of the Nspire platform, the Nspire still doesn't have getKey() or pixel/line/etc drawing abilities.
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Re: TI-84+SE discontinued
« Reply #104 on: October 01, 2010, 09:38:35 am »
Not only that but the current Nspire BASIC language isn't as easy as TI-83+ BASIC. It's not that hard either but some people may prefer sticking to a syntax that is shorter like BASIC or Axe.

Before Axe came out, almost everybody on Omnimaga programmed in TI-83+ BASIC.