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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #75 on: February 23, 2013, 02:12:23 pm »
Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on February 23, 2013, 01:49:32 pm
Just remember about TI's license:
"This Agreement will immediately terminate if you fail to comply with its terms. Upon termination of this Agreement, you agree to return or destroy the original package and all whole or partial copies of the Program in your possession and so certify in writing to TI."
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #76 on: February 23, 2013, 03:44:28 pm »
Quote from: critor on February 23, 2013, 02:12:23 pm
Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on February 23, 2013, 01:49:32 pm
Just remember about TI's license:
"This Agreement will immediately terminate if you fail to comply with its terms. Upon termination of this Agreement, you agree to return or destroy the original package and all whole or partial copies of the Program in your possession and so certify in writing to TI."
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You only have to destroy the software, not the hardware...
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2013, 03:52:49 pm »
Quote from: blue_bear_94 on February 23, 2013, 03:44:28 pm
Quote from: critor on February 23, 2013, 02:12:23 pm
Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on February 23, 2013, 01:49:32 pm
Just remember about TI's license:
"This Agreement will immediately terminate if you fail to comply with its terms. Upon termination of this Agreement, you agree to return or destroy the original package and all whole or partial copies of the Program in your possession and so certify in writing to TI."
:P

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You only have to destroy the software, not the hardware...

Too bad - it would have been a pleasure to help you ;)
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #78 on: February 23, 2013, 05:38:14 pm »
Why is this non-issue still being discussed?

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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2013, 05:41:28 pm »
Because of its implications.
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #80 on: February 23, 2013, 05:47:04 pm »
Well at least people know that if TI ever enforces their rules that they have no chance to win, so there won't be people being scared and just deleting their emulators/ROMs or whatever from their site or computer (well, of course, when you receive a DMCA notice you have to temporarily comply, but after the EFF has fought back, you can put the files back up after 24 hours or so I think.)
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #81 on: February 24, 2013, 11:06:34 pm »
@Keoni there's a EULA in the packaging which you agree to by using the calculator.
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #82 on: February 24, 2013, 11:09:33 pm »
Isn't it in the instruction manuals? I know my guidebook had a warning that the calc was sold as-is, but I don't remember anything saying the software couldn't be used in any third-party emulator or device.
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #83 on: February 25, 2013, 04:51:32 pm »
TI(Belgium)-Cares replied to me: http://paste.bwns.be/p/f2c1160fe
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #84 on: February 25, 2013, 04:55:28 pm »
Makes very little sense. It's not as if whether something from TI runs correctly on a non-TI emulator is of any concern to TI.
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #85 on: February 25, 2013, 05:22:29 pm »
Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on February 25, 2013, 04:51:32 pm
TI(Belgium)-Cares replied to me: http://paste.bwns.be/p/f2c1160fe

Fine... Then again why did they make this change now? ;)
It's been more than 20 years...
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #86 on: February 25, 2013, 05:24:13 pm »
Because, maybe, they started to fail to make sense recently?
Or maybe they changed their opinion on the programming community.
Or they noticed our use of non-TI emulators.
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #87 on: February 25, 2013, 06:13:40 pm »
They also may have (inappropriate) complaints from people working on emulators with weird behaviours thinking it was TI's fault

(if that's the case.... ahem)
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #88 on: February 25, 2013, 06:15:56 pm »
Then why wouldn't TI say that it's the emulator author's fault, instead of banning community emulation of TI's licensed materials altogether?
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Re: TI bans community calculator emulation
« Reply #89 on: February 25, 2013, 06:28:40 pm »
Quote from: blue_bear_94 on February 25, 2013, 04:55:28 pm
Makes very little sense. It's not as if whether something from TI runs correctly on a non-TI emulator is of any concern to TI.
It could just be to prevent hordes of people from yelling at them if they run into a bug/crash/whatever in an emulator, resulting in lots of false bug reports. But at the same time, I just think that they know they can't do anything to stop us from using their OS "innapropriately", but they decided to scare people to convince them to buy the official emulator instead. :P
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