« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret  (Read 11276 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline critor

  • Editor
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2079
  • Rating: +439/-13
    • View Profile
    • TI-Planet
TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« on: July 05, 2012, 08:13:36 pm »
The TI-Navigator Access Point is the proprietary WiFi router used to build a wireless network of TI-Nspire handhelds in class. It connects to the host teacher computer through USB.



In a previous news, we were discovering the included motherboard together:



And I was telling you that there was something else in the TI-Navigator Access Point...

Just think it again:
  • it's written "power by NetGear" on the case, but the 'NetGear' word doesn't show up on the motherboard... ::)
  • there is a WiFi antenna on the case, but not on the motherboard... :o
  • the motherboard has an ethernet connector, but there is no external ethernet connector on the case...  ???
  • an ethernet cable is plugged... :banghead:



The propriety TI-Navigator Access Pointer router is just built around... a perfectly standard NetGear ProSafe WAG102 router! ;D






And what if you could now build your own TI-Nspire wireless network for cheap ? ;)



Other photos available in the TI-Planet news:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9629
« Last Edit: July 05, 2012, 08:19:11 pm by critor »
Logged
+3/-0 karm for this message
TI-Planet co-admin.

Offline jwalker

  • LV7 Elite (Next: 700)
  • *******
  • Posts: 660
  • Rating: +13/-0
  • Almost everything I have released includes a 'WZ'
    • View Profile
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2012, 08:44:12 pm »
that would be awesome
Logged
<a href="http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_cg.php?im">
<img src="http://www.nerdtests.com/images/ft/cg.php?val=9612" alt="My computer geek score is greater than 41% of all people in the world! How do you compare? Click here to find out!"> </a>

Support Casio-Scene against the attacks of matt @ matpac.co.uk ! For more information: Casio-Scene shuts down & Matt actions threads

Offline apcalc

  • The Game
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV10 31337 u53r (Next: 2000)
  • *
  • Posts: 1393
  • Rating: +120/-2
  • VGhlIEdhbWUh (Base 64 :))
    • View Profile
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2012, 09:24:28 pm »
Great news and pics critor! :)
Logged

Offline Deep Toaster

  • So much to do, so much time, so little motivation
  • Administrator
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *************
  • Posts: 8217
  • Rating: +758/-15
    • View Profile
    • ClrHome
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2012, 10:52:00 pm »
Wonder how TI's gonna fare when the testing authorities find out O.O

Anyway, that's some really interesting news. Can't wait to see what Nspire developers will do with it.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2012, 10:53:34 pm by Deep Thought »
Logged



Offline AzNg0d1030

  • LV7 Elite (Next: 700)
  • *******
  • Posts: 522
  • Rating: +45/-4
  • Hardcore anime watcher.
    • View Profile
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2012, 10:58:25 pm »
O.M.G. That is AMAZING!
Great find, how long did that take?
« Last Edit: July 05, 2012, 10:58:37 pm by AzNg0d1030 »
Logged
You just lost the game.


Offline DJ Omnimaga

  • Clacualters are teh gr33t
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV15 Omnimagician (Next: --)
  • *
  • Posts: 55943
  • Rating: +3154/-232
  • CodeWalrus founder & retired Omnimaga founder
    • View Profile
    • Dream of Omnimaga Music
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2012, 01:43:07 am »
Oh wow... if 3rd party networks are possible that's gonna be amazing, considering how cheap routers are. One thing that might be discouraging people from attempting making multiplayer games or online stuff is how expensive the navigator devices are.
Logged

Offline Adriweb

  • Editor
  • LV10 31337 u53r (Next: 2000)
  • **********
  • Posts: 1708
  • Rating: +229/-17
    • View Profile
    • TI-Planet.org
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2012, 02:12:15 am »
Quote from: Deep Thought on July 05, 2012, 10:52:00 pm
Wonder how TI's gonna fare when the testing authorities find out O.O

Anyway, that's some really interesting news. Can't wait to see what Nspire developers will do with it.

Don't worry, I bet they made all that very legal :P
And anyway what in this packaged thing could be illegal ?
For example, if I have the right to sell a product, can't I just be selling a product of mine which improves/modify some other company's product directly, from the outside ? (I dont think TI modified the inside of the NetGear router)
Logged
My calculator programs
TI-Planet.org co-admin.
TI-Nspire Lua programming : Tutorials  |  API Documentation

Offline Deep Toaster

  • So much to do, so much time, so little motivation
  • Administrator
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *************
  • Posts: 8217
  • Rating: +758/-15
    • View Profile
    • ClrHome
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2012, 02:15:54 am »
Oh, I was just imagining how teachers/proctors who are paranoid about cheating would react to finding out there's basically a router inside the Navigator.
Logged



Offline critor

  • Editor
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2079
  • Rating: +439/-13
    • View Profile
    • TI-Planet
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2012, 04:03:16 am »
Quote from: Deep Thought on July 06, 2012, 02:15:54 am
Oh, I was just imagining how teachers/proctors who are paranoid about cheating would react to finding out there's basically a router inside the Navigator.

I think that the interfacing card has an important role which might be related to security and explain why non-Nspire clients can neither see or connect to this private WiFi network.


We might find out by digging into the TI-Navigator Access Point Firmware (based on Linux and uBoot):
http://tiplanet.org/forum/archives_voir.php?id=6071

Note that I don't know if that firmware is flashed into the interface card ROM, into the NetGear router (custom firmware) or into both.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 04:05:25 am by critor »
Logged
TI-Planet co-admin.

Offline TIfanx1999

  • ಠ_ಠ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *
  • Posts: 6173
  • Rating: +191/-9
    • View Profile
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2012, 08:00:45 am »
Nice find! It looks like some really interesting things could be developed if we are able to figure out how to let regular routers "see" the nSpire. :)
Logged

Offline TheNlightenedOne

  • LV6 Super Member (Next: 500)
  • ******
  • Posts: 427
  • Rating: +16/-1
    • View Profile
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2012, 09:33:22 am »
This seems too good to be true...
*TheNlightenedOne goes on EBay to look for a Netgear ProSafe WAG102
Logged
"Eris" (Ndless 3.1)
"Keto" (Ndless 3.1)
"Luna" (AMS 3.10, HW4)
"Aurora" (2.55MP)

Offline critor

  • Editor
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2079
  • Rating: +439/-13
    • View Profile
    • TI-Planet
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2012, 11:35:01 am »
Quote from: TheNlightenedOne on July 06, 2012, 09:33:22 am
This seems too good to be true...
*TheNlightenedOne goes on EBay to look for a Netgear ProSafe WAG102

Do not forget the proprietary interfacing card... ;)
Logged
TI-Planet co-admin.

Offline Juju

  • Incredibly sexy mare
  • Coder Of Tomorrow
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *************
  • Posts: 5730
  • Rating: +500/-19
  • Weird programmer
    • View Profile
    • juju2143's shed
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2012, 12:54:36 pm »
They didn't even removed the case of the Netgear router? Oh wow. Way to go, TI.
Logged

Remember the day the walrus started to fly...

I finally cleared my sig after 4 years you're happy now?
THEGAME
This signature is ridiculously large you've been warned.

The cute mare that used to be in my avatar is Yuki Kagayaki, you can follow her on Facebook and Tumblr.

Offline critor

  • Editor
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2079
  • Rating: +439/-13
    • View Profile
    • TI-Planet
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2012, 01:19:51 pm »
Yes exactly. I thought I was going to find NetGear PCB/chips inside the Navigator Access Point... not a complete NetGear router :P
« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 01:20:11 pm by critor »
Logged
TI-Planet co-admin.

Offline aeTIos

  • Nonbinary computing specialist
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3915
  • Rating: +184/-32
    • View Profile
    • wank.party
Re: TI-Navigator Access Point greatest secret
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2012, 01:55:43 pm »
Lol. That is really weird O.o
Logged
I'm not a nerd but I pretend:
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
« previous next »