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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2011, 08:11:37 am »
Quote from: critor on January 12, 2011, 08:08:32 pm
Jumping from 2.1 to 3.0 is even more frightening:
* it might reflect major changes in the OS, like the fixes for all bugs used by Ndless/Nleash.
* it might imply a drastic size increase for the OS, which would be dramatic for basic TI-Nspire (free space is allready less than 50% after installing OS 2.1 -> you often need to delete all your documents or use the maintenance menu to remove the OS before being able to install a new OS...)

My hint: do not install OS 3.0. Just test it on goplat's emulator (if it works...) or just wait for my tests. I'll sacrifice one of my 7 TI-Nspire calculators just for you.


Vernier DataQuest™ App...

Did I just read "App"?

Will OS 3.0 finally support applications, or did TI just use the bad word as usual?...

What do you think?
It does make you wonder because as you said, the jump from 2.1 to 3.0 suggests major changes. This could indeed be very bad for Ndless. The usage of the word app does intrigue me though... If they do actually add in app support that could be a big plus. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what TI is scheming. >:D
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2011, 08:18:18 am »
Even if there was support for Apps, don't expect the SDK to be public.
Only TI & Vernier have it...
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2011, 08:26:10 am »
True, but maybe someone will be able to figure out how Apps are formatted, and then develop a way for the community to make their own. ;D
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2011, 09:38:58 am »
Quote from: Art_of_camelot on January 13, 2011, 08:26:10 am
True, but maybe someone will be able to figure out how Apps are formatted, and then develop a way for the community to make their own. ;D

That would need us to figure out both the lab hardware and the calculator hardware, so it might be quite tricky.
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2011, 09:41:01 am »
Quote from: ScoutDavid on January 13, 2011, 09:38:58 am
Quote from: Art_of_camelot on January 13, 2011, 08:26:10 am
True, but maybe someone will be able to figure out how Apps are formatted, and then develop a way for the community to make their own. ;D

That would need us to figure out both the lab hardware and the calculator hardware, so it might be quite tricky.
We would need to know all of that only if we're going to make apps that support data collection stuff... If we just want to make apps that do something else, we don't need to know as much.
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2011, 09:41:57 am »
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We would need to know all of that only if we're going to make apps that support data collection stuff... If we just want to make apps that do something else, we don't need to know as much.

Maybe edit the TI-made apps.
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2011, 09:43:10 am »
Yeah. Hopefully the apps won't have 1024-bit signing keys...
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2011, 09:50:23 am »
From what I've read on Vernier website, the DataQuest app is going to be included in the 3.0 OS.

So it doesn't look like something that can be added/removed/hacked, like apps were on previous models.


But there may be some kind of an SDK. I doubt TI made Vernier deal with the TI-Nspire OS itself. Vernier probably developped the DataQuest app separately.

And it doesn't mean the OS is not able to load external apps. Else, did Vernier had to recompile the full OS for each test of a new DataQuest version?... I don't think so.


Let's guess how much free space is going to be available with the 3.0 OS! :P
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2011, 10:42:07 am »
I guess that it will be the same as on 84+SEs. :P
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2011, 10:50:23 am »
Quote from: Silver Shadow on January 13, 2011, 10:42:07 am
I guess that it will be the same as on 84+SEs. :P

1.5Mb, then ? :P
With the CAS or with the basic OS?


I would have been nicer to TI:
- let's say 10Mb on the basic TI-Nspire
- and 11.7Mb on the CAS TI-Nspire

Remember there is at least a 1.6Mb size difference between both OSes because of the TI-84+SE ROM.

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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2011, 03:25:36 pm »
Lets hope they don't do away with the TI-84 emulator to try to save some space. :(
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2011, 03:29:18 pm »
Quote from: apcalc on January 13, 2011, 03:25:36 pm
Lets hope they don't do away with the TI-84 emulator to try to save some space. :(
I don't think they would ever do that... But maybe they would remove Nspire TI-BASIC instead? D:
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2011, 05:17:53 pm »
TI? Trying to save space? Hahahahaha
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2011, 05:24:11 pm »
Pssh, they're probably of the mindset that "we have 17 Mb to use!!! we need more math functions in there!"

Also, if they do have "app" support, I hope we could find some way of using it. I wonder how hard it would be to add commands to the OS's Basic....
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Re: TI-Nspire Lab Station - More Evidence for TI-Nspire OS 3.0
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2011, 06:14:22 pm »
I was looking at the pictures in the tibank article, but I noticed "$145" is this how much the cradle will cost? If it is, it's majorly overpriced.

Also, there is already a data collection app, but I forgot how to access it.
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