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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2012, 12:13:32 am »
I think we claimed that flash wear isn't a concern for the average user. I doubt that anybody said it was a total myth, just that it's unlikely to be an issue.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #61 on: December 21, 2012, 12:24:01 am »
The 83+ Flash chip is rated for a minimum of 1 million writes, and they can probably handle 3 million.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #62 on: December 21, 2012, 02:01:43 am »
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Well, if it's not in popularity, then I think it's safe to say that the 68k series is crippled in the speed and difficulty of its programming language.
Not sure what you're talking about, especially since you're a TI-68k programmer as well :)
* the TI-68k series' BASIC isn't significantly better or worse than the TI-Z80 series' BASIC (both being much better than the wimpy Nspire BASIC), and its functionality can be extended through external assembly programs programmed in C and/or ASM;
* the 68000 is much newer than the Z80, it has many registers for its time frame, powerful addressing modes, and it can natively perform a number of operations which are a nightmare with a Z80, for instance 32/16 division or 16*16 multiplication. 32/32 division is, at worst, 3 divisions; 32*32 multiplication is 4 16*16 multiplications;
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #63 on: December 21, 2012, 02:54:21 am »
I reaaly wish TI would have mentioned what kind of processor this thing has on the specs page. x.x

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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2012, 12:05:57 pm »
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Well, if it's not in popularity, then I think it's safe to say that the 68k series is crippled in the speed and difficulty of its programming language.
Not sure what you're talking about, especially since you're a TI-68k programmer as well :)
* the TI-68k series' BASIC isn't significantly better or worse than the TI-Z80 series' BASIC (both being much better than the wimpy Nspire BASIC), and its functionality can be extended through external assembly programs programmed in C and/or ASM;

I said that editing and executing 68k-Basic programs were a pain, due to the editor and the inconvenient location of all of the drawing functions. (That's why I program mostly in C for the 68k series.) I agree with your post; the 68k variant of BASIC has more functionality, but at the cost of performance (one notable example being lists).

I reaaly wish TI would have mentioned what kind of processor this thing has on the specs page. x.x
It's z80.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #65 on: December 21, 2012, 03:40:51 pm »
I should have been more clear. I know the processor is z80, (though they could list it) the thing I'm curious about is the clock speed.

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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2012, 06:11:31 pm »
* several alternative high-level languages are available, though none of them is very popular: GFA-Basic, Newprog (probably one of the programs closest in spirit to Axe), etc.

Never heard of those O.O
What calculators are those for?
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2012, 06:34:25 pm »
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2012, 06:49:13 pm »
Fixed.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2012, 04:32:27 am »
Does anyone know if programs will be backwards compatible?  Eh why am I asking that's probably a no since it will be a color screen and you would need to take that into account when you program.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #70 on: December 22, 2012, 04:41:55 am »
We've received official confirmation that even BASIC programs will not be fully backwards compatible, and FlashApps / ASM programs will definitely not be compatible.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2012, 02:23:27 pm »
We've received official confirmation that even BASIC programs will not be fully backwards compatible, and FlashApps / ASM programs will definitely not be compatible.
where that? Do you have any link?

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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2012, 03:03:00 pm »
http://www.techpoweredmath.com/confirmed-texas-instruments-release-color-ti-84/

"Apps between older models and the 84+ C are not compatible, so Texas Instruments is in the process of rewriting their most popular TI-84+ apps for the 84+ C. At the time of release, the TI-84+ C will come preloaded Finance, Inequalz, App4Math, CellSheet, EasyData, Plysmlt2, and Smartpad. Over the course of the summer of 2013, many more of the popular TI-84+ apps will be released for the 84+ C including Areaform, CabriJr, Conics, Periodic, ProbSim, SciTools, and Transfrm."

As for TI-BASIC I don't remember the source, but given the differently sized home screen and graph screen, you can see where the incompatibilities will crop up.
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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #73 on: December 22, 2012, 03:07:05 pm »
oh, right >.>
and i was asking about basic :P

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Re: TI opens TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition page
« Reply #74 on: December 22, 2012, 03:25:24 pm »
My guess about BASIC programs is that the trivial ones will work (things like, Input, for loops, some math calculations, and Disp), but graphics stuff will probbaly have to get rewritten.
Maybe we'll figure out some automatic converter, though, if it's easy enough to do.
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