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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2011, 10:18:46 pm »
Yeah his e-mail showed his true colors. I will post the entire e-mail convo in public here soon, so people sees by themselves. In his replies he made it clear that he's not the kind of user that we want on Omnimaga. The problem, though, is that we seem to get more and more of these in the past 2 weeks, which worries me about the community future. (remember the 2008 lull due to these incidents?)

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2011, 10:19:22 pm »
Yeah his e-mail showed his true colors. I will post the entire e-mail convo in public here soon, so people sees by themselves. In his replies he made it clear that he's not the kind of user that we want on Omnimaga. The problem, though, is that we seem to get more and more of these in the past 2 weeks, which worries me about the community future. (remember the 2008 lull due to these incidents?)
Yeah, hopefully when it gets into the contest and summer, it will be calmer.

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2011, 10:23:28 pm »
I have a feeling the new cx and the nspire news has trigggered more users. I mean i feel a little worried being a new user but with postings of the cx and i guess the prizm and major tech sites like engadget posting about this new calc stuff; its led to an influx of visitors googling nspire and calc stuff (such as ndoom). hopefully people will stop abusing it, i found this site very positive, supportive and helpful. 

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2011, 10:32:10 pm »
It could be nDoom as well too. However we had 1873 guests online once due to a Slashdot article, which is much more than what we got for Doom, yet we had no issues. I think sadly the overall current generation of newcomers that arrive won't care as much for people work for the TI community and only care about free speech, even if at the expense of the community. Not all new users are bad, we got great ones and so far you seem fine too, but the ratio of good:bad user has dropped considerably lately. This worries me because I hope this is not what will happen for the next 8 months or so. This would suck if out of 20 users, 15 were haters, because that means fewer good members/users and harder to keep the good ones around.  Also it sucks considering I devoted so much effort in the TI community in the past decade, both programming-wise and site-wise.
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2011, 10:38:07 pm »
You could try increasing the post count necessary to use the IRC. Say, 100? 50? It would make jerks a lot easier to stop before getting that far.
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2011, 10:41:30 pm »
that could work cause theyd have to actually post cause spamming and double posts are against the rules. the chances someone would post 50 times to just be annoying on the irc would probably be slim. its unfortunate though that something would have to be done esp to those who are good, honest people interested in calculators and programming. its too bad cause this is a good site

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2011, 10:44:19 pm »
Nah, anyone can join IRC directly. Just OmnoMIRC can be limited to post counts.

I think sadly we have to resort to just be more strict and continue getting rid of troublesome users. We got rid of one that has absolutely no emotions/feelings about others, unless he returned to cause trouble or something, like he threatened to do during a private chat with another admin.

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2011, 10:46:26 pm »
Ah. Ok. :(
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2011, 10:57:21 pm »
Yeah maybe, but you kept re-asking the same question over and over, even if you already got answered twice. I got irritated at it and this is why I asked that since it looked like you might not have understood the question due to a possible language barrier. I am sorry if I overeacted there. Anyway I thought this was solved and that no grudges were held, ralphdspam?

If I am really so bad at moderating/handling the site maybe I should just leave completly?

Anyway I rated down your post because it seems like you are trying to start a fight, Ralphdspam.
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2011, 11:02:48 pm »
I am not trying to start a fight. My wording was bad.
No grudges are held.  I just wanted to say that the policy is not sufficient, and the rules should be re-written.  I think there might be just a little too much pressure on the new members. 

This is all just my opinion.  Feel free to have your own opinions.
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2011, 11:04:51 pm »
In your case, I agree it was maybe a bit too much, however, the main problem is that lately we received several new members that joined the IRC chat only to troll/start fights. I don't think we should start being more lax on trolling when being strict on it was what made Omnimaga successful in the first place. A lot of ppl joined this site because of this.

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2011, 11:08:37 pm »
If that is the case, maybe we should rewrite the rules.  IMO, the rules were too vague when I read them.  Of course, I understand the rules now, but I did not understand them until I learned from someone else getting banned or getting banned myself.

Again, these are just my opinions.  I do not want to start any fights.  Peace and love. :)
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2011, 11:10:19 pm »
In your case, I agree it was maybe a bit too much, however, the main problem is that lately we received several new members that joined the IRC chat only to troll/start fights. I don't think we should start being more lax on trolling when being strict on it was what made Omnimaga successful in the first place. A lot of ppl joined this site because of this.
I like the rules, and think that they aren't an issue.  Rules give order.  Granted not excessive rules, but this isn't really a democracy.  More of an oligarchy I suppose, but that's beside the point.

The thing is, how can we say something is wrong if there isn't something against it.

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2011, 11:10:45 pm »
You know, ralphdspam does raise a valid point.  What about the people that first come to Omnimaga?  It's simple: read the rules.  I believe this is something in the registration process that almost everyone skips over that's very important.  How many people actually read the rules when they were registered?

To be honest, I skimmed them. :-\

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2011, 11:12:00 pm »
I actually did read the rules.  They just didn't seem clear enough to me. :\
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