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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2013, 07:49:54 pm »
ahahaha

LOL... I'm too old to fall for those tricks. ;)

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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2013, 08:10:45 pm »
Wrong text color though. You're better with [color=transparent][/color]. The game.

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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2013, 08:11:33 pm »
Well, but in all seriousness, what if ti-planet and omnimaga did merge?

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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2013, 11:54:36 pm »
I think Omni has been hacked.
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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2013, 11:56:55 pm »
Well, happy April's Fools! TI-Planet went back to normal as well.

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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2013, 12:08:34 am »
Well, but in all seriousness, what if ti-planet and omnimaga did merge?
Then we would be only 50K posts away from making it to Big Boards lists (which requires 500000 posts). We would also have a lot more features. There would be some issues, though:

-TI-Planet takes a long time to load in North America
-I'M fairly sure that Omnimaga loads very slowly in Europe
-TI-Planet shoutbox often fails to load.
-OmnomIRC and its bots are buggy in the way that the slightest EFnet/OmniNet downtime (less than a picosecond downtime) takes them down.
-TI-Planet's design is Web 2.0-heavy, so a lot of Omnimaga members would no longer be able to visit the site due to outdated computers (as guests, your settings are not saved properly, such as disabling smart navigation and switching to lite theme).
-TI-Planet is French by default. It would need to be English by default with a very large to see option to switch to French. Else a lot of users would be turned away. In fact, I think a slogan would have to be added clearing stating that this is a bilingual site.
-If the site became primarily American, all GBA, GBC, GB and NES ROMs would have to be removed to avoid legal problems that they don't get on French sites.
-If SMF was used, it would have to be modified to allow sorting topics by post date rather than IDs in order to allow a board merge.

It would definitively be feasible since both sites are affiliated and the news are somewhat tied together (even moreso now that half of TI-Planet news are now bilingual), but it would take a long while and there would be a lot of issues to be addressed in order to avoid losing any member. In the worst case scenario, you could do like Planete Casio did in 2006: Keep both front page and forums separate, but merge the archives/courses/tutorials together then convert one of the two sites so that it looks identical. Although the Planet-Casio UK experiment failed, you can still see what I mean there:

http://www.planet-casio.com/Fr/
http://www.planet-casio.com/Uk/

Anyway happy april fools day everyone! I think juju should turn this news to #995500 text now :P
« Last Edit: April 02, 2013, 12:13:07 am by DJ Omnimaga (Not Admin) »

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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2013, 01:09:30 am »
-TI-Planet takes a long time to load in North America
-I'M fairly sure that Omnimaga loads very slowly in Europe
It may be because my connexion is strange but here (in my house in France), Omnimaga loads very fast and TI Planet has longer loading times but is still quite fast.

But yeah, the shout box there fails to load until you click on the text box, as if you were about to write something, and only then it refreshes :P
Not really a big problem so I think they didn't bother correcting it.
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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2013, 01:41:12 am »
Being in the USA, Ti-Planet has always loaded fine for me. Go figure. :o Anyho, Happy April fools day everyone! ;D
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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2013, 10:51:02 am »
Just some answers, unrelated to the topic :
-TI-Planet takes a long time to load in North America
It depends on your FAI and suscribtions. TI-Planets pings google.com (not google.fr) at 1.2ms
BTW, have you tried https://tiplanet.org ?
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-I'M fairly sure that Omnimaga loads very slowly in Europe
Omnimaga loads fine for me.
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-TI-Planet shoutbox often fails to load.
This is a bug in the shoutbox : when someone deletes a post, the chat remains blank until someone posts a new message.
It has recently been noticed as an understood bug, even if it's an old one...
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-TI-Planet's design is Web 2.0-heavy, so a lot of Omnimaga members would no longer be able to visit the site due to outdated computers (as guests, your settings are not saved properly, such as disabling smart navigation and switching to lite theme).
I agree the website could be heavy for non-recent computer. I apologizes for that, but I was guided by new HTML5 features, developping on an i7 ...
On the other hand, the settings are saved properly in the cookies. If your browser cleans those cookies, then it's your problem. I never encoured any problem, even in guest mode. Also, if you're logged in, the settings are saved in your account settings (no more cookies).
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-TI-Planet is French by default. It would need to be English by default with a very large to see option to switch to French. Else a lot of users would be turned away. In fact, I think a slogan would have to be added clearing stating that this is a bilingual site.
This is a deep problem, since a lot of strings are hardcoded in the template / sources.
It would require a lot of work to make it properly bilingual..
« Last Edit: April 02, 2013, 10:51:44 am by Levak »
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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2013, 11:04:48 am »
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-I'M fairly sure that Omnimaga loads very slowly in Europe
Omnimaga loads fine for me.
Some people have issues loading Omnimaga in locations other then North America due to the fact that our server is in NA. If you ping us you'll notice that you don't have the best ping.
I myself get a ping of around 38ms, I'm assuming yours will be much higher.
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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2013, 11:07:51 am »
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-I'M fairly sure that Omnimaga loads very slowly in Europe
Omnimaga loads fine for me.
Some people have issues loading Omnimaga in locations other then North America due to the fact that our server is in NA. If you ping us you'll notice that you don't have the best ping.
I myself get a ping of around 38ms, I'm assuming yours will be much higher.
Envoi d'une requête 'ping' sur www.omnimaga.org [108.162.198.193] avec 32 octets
Réponse de 108.162.198.193 : octets=32 temps=27 ms TTL=55
Réponse de 108.162.198.193 : octets=32 temps=30 ms TTL=55
Réponse de 108.162.198.193 : octets=32 temps=29 ms TTL=55
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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2013, 04:24:13 pm »
Just some answers, unrelated to the topic :
-TI-Planet takes a long time to load in North America
It depends on your FAI and suscribtions. TI-Planets pings google.com (not google.fr) at 1.2ms
BTW, have you tried https://tiplanet.org ?
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-I'M fairly sure that Omnimaga loads very slowly in Europe
Omnimaga loads fine for me.
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-TI-Planet shoutbox often fails to load.
This is a bug in the shoutbox : when someone deletes a post, the chat remains blank until someone posts a new message.
It has recently been noticed as an understood bug, even if it's an old one...
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-TI-Planet's design is Web 2.0-heavy, so a lot of Omnimaga members would no longer be able to visit the site due to outdated computers (as guests, your settings are not saved properly, such as disabling smart navigation and switching to lite theme).
I agree the website could be heavy for non-recent computer. I apologizes for that, but I was guided by new HTML5 features, developping on an i7 ...
On the other hand, the settings are saved properly in the cookies. If your browser cleans those cookies, then it's your problem. I never encoured any problem, even in guest mode. Also, if you're logged in, the settings are saved in your account settings (no more cookies).
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-TI-Planet is French by default. It would need to be English by default with a very large to see option to switch to French. Else a lot of users would be turned away. In fact, I think a slogan would have to be added clearing stating that this is a bilingual site.
This is a deep problem, since a lot of strings are hardcoded in the template / sources.
It would require a lot of work to make it properly bilingual..

Hmm what does FAI stand for? Also for the loading issues it might possibly depend of location in North America or Europe, then. I know that in Florida, IRC used to lag like crazy, and for a short while, following Hurricane Sandy, Omnimaga took a long time to load on East Coast (including Quebec), with pings averaging around 800ms. In my case, my ping to TI-Planet is
Reply from 88.190.40.207: bytes=32 time=108ms TTL=54
Reply from 88.190.40.207: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=54
Reply from 88.190.40.207: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=54
Reply from 88.190.40.207: bytes=32 time=108ms TTL=54

Cemetech averages at 11-27ms and Omnimaga 25-35ms. Ticalc.org (which is hosted in Germany) ping is identical to TI-Planet and Mic's site 135ms (it used to be 115ms back in Free.fr days).

As for the cookies issues TI-Planet is the only site I have problems with in Opera browser. It only happens in guest mode, though.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2013, 04:26:03 pm by DJ Omnimaga (Not Admin) »

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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2013, 06:49:20 pm »
For me :

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Envoi d'une requête 'ping' sur omnimaga.org [108.162.199.193] avec 32 octets de
données :
Réponse de 108.162.199.193 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=55
Réponse de 108.162.199.193 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=55
Réponse de 108.162.199.193 : octets=32 temps=21 ms TTL=55
Réponse de 108.162.199.193 : octets=32 temps=24 ms TTL=55

and :

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Envoi d'une requête 'ping' sur tiplanet.org [88.190.40.207] avec 32 octets de do
nnées :
Réponse de 88.190.40.207 : octets=32 temps=23 ms TTL=49
Réponse de 88.190.40.207 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=49
Réponse de 88.190.40.207 : octets=32 temps=24 ms TTL=49
Réponse de 88.190.40.207 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=49

Pretty much the same....
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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2013, 06:51:42 pm »
Hmm what does FAI stand for?
Fournisseur d'accès à Internet, or in English, an ISP.

I get pretty much the same ping times as DJ (because same ISP and location lol), I guess our ISP is kinda shit for exporting data to Europe.

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Re: Welcome on TI-Planet!
« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2013, 06:55:58 pm »
Hmm, strange. I know that Sorunome's server has terrible connection to ours, thus omnomirc is on withg instead of his. It must depend on your ISP I guess.
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