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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #135 on: August 06, 2010, 03:17:06 pm »
Maybe read how the Gameboy SP did it *shrug*  My pocket PC also handles it quite nicely.  I agree though about it being manual, and not controlled by the OS (it crashes, and leaves your light on D:)

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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #136 on: August 06, 2010, 03:18:26 pm »
Interesting idea - not sure how to implement though. Maybe a regular backlight? Or LED bars?
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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #137 on: August 06, 2010, 03:18:56 pm »
Maybe read how the Gameboy SP did it *shrug*  My pocket PC also handles it quite nicely.  I agree though about it being manual, and not controlled by the OS (it crashes, and leaves your light on D:)

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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #138 on: August 06, 2010, 03:23:26 pm »
since i'm assuming we don't want to use the same keyboard layout as the TI84 series, and QWERTY is out of the question thanks to the people who run the SAT's, will there be any compatibility issues between KnightOS' key recognition and a different keyboard? or is this a simple fix by wiring the correct buttons to the correct ports?


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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #139 on: August 06, 2010, 03:25:02 pm »
It wouldn't be too terribly hard (either one imo)  You might have to port a few programs to the new one if you go by software instead of hardware.

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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #140 on: August 06, 2010, 03:31:35 pm »
I definetely like the backlight idea, I am unsure about having the backlight powered by the "regular" batteries because the'll be drained quickly. i think you'd better put the switch on the side but that is a worry for later. Which brings me to a next (random) feature I'd like to see, battery status!

I just glanced over the eZ80 documentation and I think it is absolutely perfect. I would personally like to pick up >20Mhz, possibly the 50mhz. Since the most expensive 50Mhz eZ80 is $18.4 and the cheapest: $8.6. The golden midway is $12.6

This is all very afforable! I think of all components the screen, case and proccesor are going to be the most expensive. I estimate/like to see the eZ80 version going for sale at about $70 or maybe less if we manafacture in china :P

Off course this is all just specualting.
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Interesting idea - not sure how to implement though. Maybe a regular backlight? Or LED bars?
Some LCD's already have a backlight integrated. I'd definetely take one of these as they tend to be fast as well, and switching the backlight is quite easy (just a signal/flag).
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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #141 on: August 06, 2010, 03:32:37 pm »
I'm thinking that if we're really making something radically different than TI, we could be able to write a new kernel. KnightOS is based around TI's hardware, and it might not be the best choice. I'm sure whatever we make would have a completely different memory layout, plus the added power of an eZ80 could make a better OS possible. Not to bash Sircmpwn or anything, but I think we can do much better when not limited to the TI-83+ hardware.
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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #142 on: August 06, 2010, 03:35:29 pm »
I'm thinking that if we're really making something radically different than TI, we could be able to write a new kernel. KnightOS is based around TI's hardware, and it might not be the best choice. I'm sure whatever we make would have a completely different memory layout, plus the added power of an eZ80 could make a better OS possible. Not to bash Sircmpwn or anything, but I think we can do much better when not limited to the TI-83+ hardware.
I couldn't agree with you more. We could however use KOS as a reference...
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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #143 on: August 06, 2010, 03:37:33 pm »
@calc84maniac: I don't know.... I think it really isn't too hard to port such an OS. Who would write a new OS though?
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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #144 on: August 06, 2010, 03:42:29 pm »
Me! If I wasn't already writing one for a Spartan 3e FPGA...
plus I am not a z80 hero, but if asked I'd definetely take on the challenge.
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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #145 on: August 06, 2010, 03:46:25 pm »
I'm sure someone will. If not someone, then a group of people can do it or something.
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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #146 on: August 06, 2010, 03:49:42 pm »
My suggestion is to ask SirCmpwn what he thinks. If he thinks his OS will work, then we'll use it. Otherwise, we definitely need a smart person/smart group
to design a new OS. OS designing is a lot harder than it looks, especially for the kernel part, so beware. :)
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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #147 on: August 06, 2010, 03:50:28 pm »
I would be happy to participate.
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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #148 on: August 06, 2010, 04:06:31 pm »
Me too but once again I am not that good at z80 assembly. There is no lack of will only lack of know-how.
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Re: Let's build our own calculator!
« Reply #149 on: August 06, 2010, 04:23:03 pm »
I would be happy to participate.

Great! :) Hopefully you know how to design kernels and such... ;)

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