@happybobjr: nah, too expensive. Teacher idea is OK.
10 calcs = 10 X $80 ish = $800. Pretty big...

@matthias1992: I'm busy all the time. This is a community project - the wiki will help us organize ideas.
We'll all agree on a set spec, and such. I and many others can help the planning and such stay on track.

@everyone else:
WE NEED A WIKI FAST! Someone wake DJ up or something...
You are correct - it can take a while to do such a thing. This isn't small - this is some serious work.

just real quick, when we get knight os finished, copyright it.  just a thought.

Ok, so I feel like I should put my input into this a bit. Anything I say is not meant to upset anyone, piss anyone off, de-hype someone or anything. I'm just trying to look at this realistically. Sorry if anything sounds harsh, not my intention. I'm just kinda flat saying things.

Couple things:

1. Alberthrocks is right, DO NOT start getting your money out, hopes up, and such. Right now we are just planning and nothing is for sure set (yes, I know Raylin said this was official but things can still happen (no offence Raylin)).
2. Again, alberthrocks is right. Math is a must. If we didn't have math then a lot of operations go out the window, for one, and also we might as well be building a new type of GameBoy.
3. This is my personal opinion but before we start thinking about design I think we need to get the specs figured out and then get the software made and ready to go. That is the first priority I think. Building it will be a lot less stressful then.
4. When it does come time to building this thing, if we get that far, then the shell and buttons could probably be made from a 3D printer at school or something (I'm not saying I can do this, I'm just saying that's a possibility because some technical classes teach about them and are pretty handy).
5. Before we start thinking about making multiples of these we need to first just make a single one. See how much it costs, see what we can change or fix. We needn't worry about making a bunch right now.
6. Once this thing starts to take off and multiple people get involved in planning and such I think there needs to be an online hard drive site that we use where everything is stored. No offence to Omni but a thread isn't a good place to keep everything because it's hard to keep it organized. I also think this should be constrained to members only stuff so nobody from the outside can't interfere and such.
7. Right now I would advise NOT think about mass producing this. We don't know how much this will cost and we don't even know what will happen with these things.

Again, sorry if anything upsets someone. It is not my intention. Just trying to help this succeed

Quote from: alberthrocks on August 06, 2010, 11:43:41 am

@happybobjr: nah, too expensive. Teacher idea is OK.
10 calcs = 10 X $80 ish = $800. Pretty big...

@matthias1992: I'm busy all the time. This is a community project - the wiki will help us organize ideas.
We'll all agree on a set spec, and such. I and many others can help the planning and such stay on track.

@everyone else:
WE NEED A WIKI FAST! Someone wake DJ up or something...
You are correct - it can take a while to do such a thing. This isn't small - this is some serious work.

I would advise editing that just a bit because it sounds like you're trying to get DJ to do it and I'm fairly sure most or all of us know where he has been standing on admin related stuff. I know you didn't mean it like that but ya, it could be interpreted like that.

just real quick, when we get knight os finished, copyright it.  just a thought.

Just thought I would point out, Knight OS is being developed by Sir specifically for the 83+ Series. At this point we don't even know what kind of hardware might be used or if running something like Knight OS would even be feasible. I'm also unsure how likely it would be that Knight OS will be copyrighted, more than likely it'll be released as open source under a license.
*edit* wow, super ninja'd.

i don't mean to be mean, but remember that KnightOS is not "ours". it's Sir's. let him decide what he wants to do with it, and we can focus on our calculator.

Quote from: alberthrocks on August 06, 2010, 11:56:43 am

Quote from: meishe91 on August 06, 2010, 11:48:15 am

Ok, so I feel like I should put my input into this a bit. Anything I say is not meant to upset anyone, piss anyone off, de-hype someone or anything. I'm just trying to look at this realistically. Sorry if anything sounds harsh, not my intention. I'm just kinda flat saying things.

Couple things:

1. Alberthrocks is right, DO NOT start getting your money out, hopes up, and such. Right now we are just planning and nothing is for sure set (yes, I know Raylin said this was official but things can still happen (no offence Raylin)).
2. Again, alberthrocks is right. Math is a must. If we didn't have math then a lot of operations go out the window, for one, and also we might as well be building a new type of GameBoy.
3. This is my personal opinion but before we start thinking about design I think we need to get the specs figured out and then get the software made and ready to go. That is the first priority I think. Building it will be a lot less stressful then.
4. When it does come time to building this thing, if we get that far, then the shell and buttons could probably be made from a 3D printer at school or something (I'm not saying I can do this, I'm just saying that's a possibility because some technical classes teach about them and are pretty handy).
5. Before we start thinking about making multiples of these we need to first just make a single one. See how much it costs, see what we can change or fix. We needn't worry about making a bunch right now.
6. Once this thing starts to take off and multiple people get involved in planning and such I think there needs to be an online hard drive site that we use where everything is stored. No offence to Omni but a thread isn't a good place to keep everything because it's hard to keep it organized. I also think this should be constrained to members only stuff so nobody from the outside can't interfere and such.
7. Right now I would advise NOT think about mass producing this. We don't know how much this will cost and we don't even know what will happen with these things.

Again, sorry if anything upsets someone. It is not my intention. Just trying to help this succeed

Quote from: alberthrocks on August 06, 2010, 11:43:41 am

@happybobjr: nah, too expensive. Teacher idea is OK.
10 calcs = 10 X $80 ish = $800. Pretty big...

@matthias1992: I'm busy all the time. This is a community project - the wiki will help us organize ideas.
We'll all agree on a set spec, and such. I and many others can help the planning and such stay on track.

@everyone else:
WE NEED A WIKI FAST! Someone wake DJ up or something...
You are correct - it can take a while to do such a thing. This isn't small - this is some serious work.

I would advise editing that just a bit because it sounds like you're trying to get DJ to do it and I'm fairly sure most or all of us know where he has been standing on admin related stuff. I know you didn't mean it like that but ya, it could be interpreted like that.

Agreed. THINK before leaping. This can be very successful (I've seen community projects evolve into consumer products), but we need to do some serious thinking before starting anything.

Yeah, the current plan is to host it on Cemetech or Wikidot.

Quote from: happybobjr on August 06, 2010, 11:53:56 am

just real quick, when we get knight os finished, copyright it.  just a thought.

It's copyrighted already. Anything you write, do, etc. is under your ownership. It's likely going to be open source, so that places a big lock on it already.

Well I didn't mean something like a Wiki or something. I meant an actual site that acts as a hard drive. That way only the people working on the project have access to it and its components.

As for the copyright thing I think he meant like an official patent