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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2010, 07:52:38 am »
Yeah, you can. I didn't know of its existence at the time, though. :P
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2010, 02:56:48 pm »
Celtic can also ungroup files. But I'm not sure if it can ungroup corrupted group files
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2010, 08:48:01 am »
I have a question:
Sometimes, if I re-download and ungroup my backed-up file, some prgm says it only has 16 bytes of mem and if I try to run it, it ERRs me.
Is that the corrupted group file, or is it some thing else?
If it happens, how do I fix it?
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2010, 12:19:48 pm »
Quote from: yeongJIN_COOL on October 19, 2010, 08:48:01 am
I have a question:
Sometimes, if I re-download and ungroup my backed-up file, some prgm says it only has 16 bytes of mem and if I try to run it, it ERRs me.
Is that the corrupted group file, or is it some thing else?
If it happens, how do I fix it?
Probably a corrupted group. It happens pretty often.
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2010, 01:40:13 pm »
Like once in every 16384 groupings, but a lot of us have experienced it because of how often we use it :P

You can't fix that bug, unfortunately, but thepenguin77's released several OS patches for various group bugs. Look around :)

And so you should probably group each set twice just to be more secure.
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2010, 02:48:13 pm »
That also happens when transfering a group file to your computer with TI-Graph Link or an old version of TiLP and TI-Connect, then send it back to the calc or WabbitEmu with more recent softwares/versions.

Groups aren't 100% reliable so I would be careful with them.
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2010, 03:17:47 pm »
Oddly enough i have never experienced the group bug ^^
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2010, 04:19:49 pm »
Just a random question: What are groups?

I've never needed to use them, so I have no idea what they are.
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2010, 04:35:08 pm »
Quote from: Builderboy
Oddly enough i have never experienced the group bug ^^

Lucky. I've probably experienced every group bug out there x.x

Qwerty.55, they're basically like ZIP files without the compression. You can copy any vars you want to a group, often for backup purposes. You can't edit the group directly, but you can ungroup them (kinda like "unzipping").

Btw, it's 2nd+[MEM] > 8:Groups...
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2010, 04:50:49 pm »
yeah the cool thing about groups is that they can be ungrouped many times over so it saves the programs and pics and such and keeps them relatively safe :D
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2010, 05:11:06 pm »
But as you can see by this thread (and all those posts where people lost all their progress by a corrupted group :P), you really shouldn't trust groups for all your backup purposes. Groups occasionally get corrupted, so you should backup on other calcs/comps periodically.

And you should use the patches made by thepenguin77 (they're posted in Other calculator discussion and news > ERR: VERSION). I can't put the link here because I'm in a proxy right now :P

EDIT: And yeongJIN_COOL, archive everything before you try deleting that 16-byte program. I've had that happen before, and when I tried to delete it, it reset my RAM.

EDIT2: Here they were: http://ourl.ca/6542.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2010, 07:09:26 pm by Deep Thought »
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2010, 12:50:11 am »
My only issues with groups so far were when sending them to the comp with TI-Graph Link. They were stored in a different format not supported by newer versions of TI-Connect then all other software/emulators decided to keep compatibility with TI-Connect, meaning old groups corrupts when sent to them. Also when grouping stuff sometimes a byte is changed in the group file. So in a BASIC game you may end up with a nice ERR:SYNTAX in one of your program.
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2010, 09:43:42 pm »
Oh, yeah, and TI sometimes doesn't even support their own group files. TI-Connect for Mac exports groups in .8xo form, but the group creator makes groups in .8xg format. Then you switch to the Windows TI-Connect, which doesn't even support the .8xo form.
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2010, 03:10:27 am »
Yeah and even if you rename them to 8xg they still won't work. X.x
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Re: BACKUP YOUR PROGRESS OFTEN!
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2010, 07:02:52 am »
I found DropBox very useful to backup online your project.
You have 2GB free and you can get more after following some tasks and inviting people.
This a tip more assembly or C calculator related, web development and other things. But you can also send from your calculator to computer and them put into DropBox.

For TI-BASIC you can also use SourceCoder2 in cemetech.
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