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« on: October 06, 2006, 07:29:00 am »
Patrick Stone has requested that I try and gage some interest in his Black Eagle Shell 4.0 Asm version and to see who would be interested in beta testing it for him.

if you have any interest in it please post here.

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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2006, 12:42:00 pm »
is it going to add anything new or is it going to be a MirageOS copy ??
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2006, 03:12:00 pm »
hmm is patrick stone the guy from suicidal psycho software? I remember that small team from back when I was still very active at MaxCoderz, there was a few interesting project in there

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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2006, 02:29:00 am »
indeed he is, (Im also a member)..... he's also one of the ticalc.org file archivers.

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also, pat posted a copy of the manual a while back http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=310

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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2006, 02:34:00 am »
that look great!

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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2006, 03:05:00 am »
yeah, evidently Pat's been fairly busy this year.....

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2006, 03:10:00 am »
yeah, and the suipsyso forums seems to be dead as well :(sad.gif

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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2006, 03:22:00 am »
heh, tell me about it...Im pretty much the only active member left

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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2006, 03:46:00 am »
yeah your last post was last winter I think <.<

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2006, 07:54:00 am »
Hey, I don't do "nothing".  Sure, I don't do nearly as much as I used to or as much as I should, but I help out when I get time (which is rare, I admit).  Plus, when I first got "hired" (although I am not sure if that is the right word as no money is involved), I was the only one archiving...tons and tons of files.  Plus, when Jason doesn't have time or is on vacation, I take over.  So please, don't just blindly repeat anything you hear.  Go ahead and ask me about it before you go defaming my name and I will give you the downright truth.  Thanks.

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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2006, 07:55:00 am »
The beta would contain the basic shell functions including:

  Archiving/Unarchiving Programs
  Locking/Unlocking Programs
  Deleting Programs
  Resetting RAM
  Hibernating
  Showing Calculator Information
  Showing Shell Information
  Showing Program Information (Size, Type {Asm, Basic}, Archive Status, Lock Status, Shell Assosiation, Program Description, Program Image)
  Running Programs (Basic, TI-OS Asm, and possibly ION Asm {if I get it finished}).
  Displaying RAM and ROM (down to the byte)
  Displaying Credits

Remember, this is a beta.  Therefore, more features would be added to the final version.  I am open to any comments and suggestions.  The options screen currently resembles MirageOS and that is something I would want to change.  If anyone has any design ideas, please let me know.  

The final version WILL be able to run MirageOS programs (although only ones that call the most common Mirage functions as DetachedSolutions is not willing to give me the source code for their functions  :(sad.gif ).  However, future updates may allow any Mirage functions.  Also, I am planning on implementing a hide/unhide function.  

This shell recognizes file types for DoorsCS, MirageOS, ION, and Black Eagle Shell (BES).  Another good thing is that it sees all programs on the calculator.  Therefore, if you want to unlock a Basic program for editing but cannot add the colon that MirageOS requires to see the Basic program, you can simply just start BES and unlock it there.  

Also, the final version will be able to read program images out of a Basic program (instructions on how to make a Basic program image will be included).  This is similar to how DoorsCS does it but it will be twice as big.  

Please remember, this is only a beta.  Currently, I am trying to finish the run program part so that the beta will be able to run Basic programs and TI-OS Asm programs.  I am planning on releasing this on October 12th or 13th if enough people are interested.

To e-mail any concerns, bugs, suggestions, or whatever, my e-mail address is [email protected].  Thanks.

Patrick Stone
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2006, 08:02:00 am »
sry I didnt meant to be bad by saying this, I'll delete this part of my post. Again sry, no hate intended toward anyone. It's just the other file archiver who said that a few times and when he was gone I was sure it was michael_V who taken over because michael_V sometimes did file archiving this summer from what I seen in tcpa logs. Again sorry

As for the app it look nice and the features look promising as well, it's cool that it will support DoorCS, MOS and Ion programs, will it support BASIC programs from DCS too with the file icons?

As for Detached not willing to give out source code don't worry, someday we (as the rest of the community) will take over this world and pwn them all :Dbiggrin.gif (j/k)

anyway welcome here, I wish I could help this project but I dunno asm :(sad.gif

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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2006, 08:25:00 am »
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As for the app it look nice and the features look promising as well, it's cool that it will support DoorCS, MOS and Ion programs, will it support BASIC programs from DCS too with the file icons?


The beta will not support the DoorsCS Basic program icon, but the finished version will.

No harm done, I know it was just hearsay, but nonetheless, it was somewhat hurtful.  Thanks for deleting it.  (One of my own programming group members has done the same thing too :(sad.gif .  Oh well.)

By the way, I forgot to mention, this will be open source.  However, it will be copyrighted.  Therefore, you can learn from it as well as even possibly use pieces of it (provided you give appropriate credit) but you cannot just add some code, recompile, and SHABAM!, you've got a shell.  More will be explained at the time the beta is released.  Any other questions?

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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2006, 08:34:00 am »
I'm glad this got resolved, *xlibman

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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2006, 10:17:00 am »
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As for the app it look nice and the features look promising as well, it's cool that it will support DoorCS, MOS and Ion programs, will it support BASIC programs from DCS too with the file icons?


The beta will not support the DoorsCS Basic program icon, but the finished version will.

No harm done, I know it was just hearsay, but nonetheless, it was somewhat hurtful.  Thanks for deleting it.  (One of my own programming group members has done the same thing too :(sad.gif .  Oh well.)

By the way, I forgot to mention, this will be open source.  However, it will be copyrighted.  Therefore, you can learn from it as well as even possibly use pieces of it (provided you give appropriate credit) but you cannot just add some code, recompile, and SHABAM!, you've got a shell.  More will be explained at the time the beta is released.  Any other questions?

Patrick Stone
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http://www.geocities.com/suipsysof  

 perhaps you could ask Kerm to use his reimplemented MOS routines, they are open sourced at this point, but he can be a little territorial (no offense kerm) due to some issues with code being stolen in the past.