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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2011, 05:56:08 pm »
One what?
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #91 on: March 17, 2011, 11:19:15 pm »
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #92 on: March 17, 2011, 11:27:32 pm »
Quote from: Darl181 on March 13, 2011, 07:47:42 pm
A patch for MSD8X, or a replacement, that orders the on-calc variables in a way that makes more sense than just reading from the VAT.
Or even better, FAT32 support ;)

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Do you mean like omnicalc's RestoreMem feature?
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #93 on: March 17, 2011, 11:32:02 pm »
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #94 on: March 17, 2011, 11:32:29 pm »
Yes, it is.
Do you mean more user-friendly than this? http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/411/41128.html
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #95 on: March 19, 2011, 05:59:56 pm »
Uncompiler.
I know it sounds impossible, but as the commands use specified routines, I think it wouldn't be too bad.
It would still be good to have only a portion of it be uncompiled.


Quote from: Darl181 on March 17, 2011, 11:32:29 pm
Yes, it is.
Do you mean more user-friendly than this? http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/411/41128.html
The problem with that is scrolling through all the options and accidentally miss the one you want :/
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #96 on: March 19, 2011, 09:01:54 pm »
Quote from: Happybobjr on March 19, 2011, 05:59:56 pm
Uncompiler.

Like a decompiler? I think that's been suggested a couple of times. It would have to be someone with the full Axe source though.
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #97 on: March 19, 2011, 11:13:00 pm »
Hmm, well I think if I was to attack a project like that, I would require Axe to be on the calc and then the from there it would compare the calls. Well, actually, it isn't too difficult to decompile an Axe program... I just decompile it to Asm(<<hex code>> :P
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #98 on: March 20, 2011, 03:24:26 am »
Actually, the hex is not assembly but instead machine code. :P It's one step higher than binary and the step right below the words of assembly. I don't think you'd need Axe's source, as the all the routines Axe uses are documented somewhere. Hey, the decompiler could even be written in Axe! Now wouldn't that be something....
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #99 on: March 20, 2011, 03:30:27 am »
If Axe doesn't make many optimizations, then a decompiler would be pretty easy. If it makes a lot of compile time optimizations, though, it'd be difficult to decompile. You'd also have to account for people like Xeda who just write their entire Axe programs in straight hex :P

A decompiler would need some fairly advanced tables to keep track of all of the subroutine calls, so I don't think a pure Axe decompiler would be very efficient or easy to make.
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #100 on: March 20, 2011, 03:33:24 am »
Yep :D My very first Axe program was this:
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.TESTAPP
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Then I found that Axe inserted some data at the beginning, so all my calls were thrown off :/
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #101 on: March 20, 2011, 03:36:03 am »
Trying to decompile that would be a good way to crash a decompiler :P
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #102 on: March 20, 2011, 03:40:40 am »
1152 bytes of that is a font set and bitmap and 582 bytes is a jump table, the rest is just tricky code :D my computer required about 10 to 15 minutes to decompile that with Assemblex  :D
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #103 on: March 22, 2011, 02:19:17 pm »
Idea:  A text to speech for calc.  It should be rather easy but time consuming.
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Re: Calculator Programs/Games Ideas/Requests - Inspiration
« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2011, 02:25:52 pm »
yes, it could be done with a microphone that you connect to the I/O port. the hard part would be, to get all the bytes in time.
(um, i feel like missing the point a bit)
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