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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2010, 12:09:25 pm »
So Doors CS 7 is underway at last.  Development is slowly accelerating, as I still have a few more things to finish up for the semester, most prominently the defense of my Master's thesis on realtime face detection and recognition in wearable computing and augmented reality.  I also have two finals and a project, but then I'll have a nice chunk of the summer for development.  Unfortunately the 11-hour-from-now deadline in my signature is unrealistic (and will be corrected soon), but I have indeed been doing some fairly intense ASM coding.  I freed up about 2KB by consolidating routines and moving more of the internal stuff over to the DCS GUI subsystem, I've been doing general stability fixes and optimizations, and yesterday evening I more or less finished porting the popular TabFunc shell expansion (which makes the mouse irrelevant for those who dislike a mouse-based interface) into the shell proper.  I'll stop by here occasionally, but if you want more timely updates on development (and want to nag me with feature suggestions and bug reports, which I would very much appreciate), come say hi at Cemetech or #cemetech on efnet.  The topic to post suggestions and bug reports in is currently this one, and you can see some more dev screenshots in this topic.  Cheers. :)

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PS - oh, and folder backup is indeed a priority for DCS7. :) Thanks for all the feedback on that particular issue.
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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2010, 12:43:44 pm »
Yes Yes Yes Yes YES!

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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2010, 04:17:24 pm »
So Doors CS 7 is underway at last.  Development is slowly accelerating, as I still have a few more things to finish up for the semester, most prominently the defense of my Master's thesis on realtime face detection and recognition in wearable computing and augmented reality.  I also have two finals and a project, but then I'll have a nice chunk of the summer for development.  Unfortunately the 11-hour-from-now deadline in my signature is unrealistic (and will be corrected soon), but I have indeed been doing some fairly intense ASM coding.  I freed up about 2KB by consolidating routines and moving more of the internal stuff over to the DCS GUI subsystem, I've been doing general stability fixes and optimizations, and yesterday evening I more or less finished porting the popular TabFunc shell expansion (which makes the mouse irrelevant for those who dislike a mouse-based interface) into the shell proper.  I'll stop by here occasionally, but if you want more timely updates on development (and want to nag me with feature suggestions and bug reports, which I would very much appreciate), come say hi at Cemetech or #cemetech on efnet.  The topic to post suggestions and bug reports in is currently this one, and you can see some more dev screenshots in this topic.  Cheers. :)

Here's some eyecandy of DCS6 vs DCS7 to date for your pleasure:


PS - oh, and folder backup is indeed a priority for DCS7. :) Thanks for all the feedback on that particular issue.
I'm glad you got back into the groove :). Altough I'm a die hard MirageOs user (being the fact it's the shell I used since early 2002), I liked DoorCS style. Providing it works on the TI-Nspire and that DCS7 saves my settings after a RAM clear, it's pretty much guaranteed a place on my TI-Nspire 84+SE mode.

I also think Door CS deserves a feature on ticalc.org. It became a pretty popular shell with the time and I often hear people over here who says who use it. Heck, Quigibo even added DCS support in Axe Parser compile option :P

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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2010, 05:29:31 pm »
Glad to hear this is in the works :) Will be exciting to see the results O0
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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2010, 05:54:00 pm »
Yay, DCS7 will be coming out! I second the notion for a feature when it is released. If only we can convince the ticalc.org staff...
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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2010, 06:52:16 pm »
The major issue is the bad reputation DCS had in the past among the TI community in 2001-2005 because it was using both BASIC and ASM and took too much RAM, so it was not considered as a real shell. In DCS5 there were bugs IIRC and 6 still had some. However I think it's time for those ppl to stop living in the past and look at the present... or at least in 5 hours, as KermMartian DCS signature says :P. This will be DoorCS as it is now and I think it's a quite nice alternative to other shells, and considering a bunch of people use it, I am pretty sure it's feature-worthy.

Btw will instant goto feature be 100% crash-proof in DCS7? I loved this addition to DCS6 but I was scared of using it as I heard some ppl reporting rare but random crashes. Some BASIC games sure takes a long while to scroll down in the code.

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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #51 on: May 03, 2010, 01:07:43 pm »
TabFuncs built-in! Folder Restore feature fully working! Masters thesis defense in fourish hours! Progress rolls on.

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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2010, 01:13:27 pm »
Wow nice, I am happy to see TabFuncs built-in. In the old DCS, some people wanted to use such thing but had to install an additional plug-in that needed to be unarchived, and got deleted after RAM clears, right? It's cool to see something like this integrated directly now. I'm also happy folders and their content are kept after resets. This is one thing I disliked about Mirage: folder content disappearing after RAM clear, and the reason why I never bothered using that feature.

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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #53 on: May 03, 2010, 04:26:04 pm »
Nice! I can't wait to use it on my calc :p
what's the new estimate on the completion date?
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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #54 on: May 03, 2010, 08:39:14 pm »
Kerm, will password protection be a plugin, or will it be a built-in function?

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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2010, 01:04:56 am »
Password protection is a plugin that you can already download on Cemetech or on ticalc.org in the new 2.0 version.
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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2010, 02:01:44 am »
I think he wanted to know if it's gonna be built in DoorCS by default, though.

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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #57 on: May 04, 2010, 09:03:30 am »
What I was asking was if it you need the seperate program, or will it be built in, like TabFunctions is now? Cuz, if there's extra space on the third app page when Kerm is done, it would be nice to have it built in, if he didn't intend to originally.

Or, what would actually be cooler, but maybe harder to do, is to have the password program work as a sort of installer script that adds the password to the DoorsCS program, in much the same way that you run installers on a computer, and once the program is installed, you never need the installer again (unless you crash).
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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2010, 11:15:25 am »
What I was asking was if it you need the seperate program, or will it be built in, like TabFunctions is now? Cuz, if there's extra space on the third app page when Kerm is done, it would be nice to have it built in, if he didn't intend to originally.

Or, what would actually be cooler, but maybe harder to do, is to have the password program work as a sort of installer script that adds the password to the DoorsCS program, in much the same way that you run installers on a computer, and once the program is installed, you never need the installer again (unless you crash).
That's basically what the program I released on ticalc.org and Cemetech is.  It installs a hidden program with your desired password encrypted, which runs at Doors CS startup as a Shell Expansion.  There's no point in me incorporating it into Doors CS itself, as I personally feel password protection is annoying and useless on a calculator.



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Re: Doors CS 7 really coming out?
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2010, 01:05:30 pm »
I kinda agree with Kerm on that last point, especially if password protection is disabled on a reset.