Post by: dragon__lance on December 16, 2005, 11:37:00 am
this works, thx a whole bunch xlibman :bow:
anyways, necro, i believe we were discussing battle screen layout so far ? ur plans...
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 16, 2005, 12:08:00 pm
Post by: necro on December 16, 2005, 06:47:00 pm
Well, there you go...a underlying map is used to draw the screen and the enemies are drawn on top
the blue shows where you could put trees, graves, ect. in the map
Layout:
each enememy (red/yellow) is set 24 pixels apart verticaly and horizontaly
While the players are all 16X16 and as such, are as showed on the right with the front man 12 pixels up, and the orange character 24pixels up. (not drawn to any kind of scale)
and during your turn, the map scrolls left and a menu pops out
When you/enemy attack or do something, it moves to a seprate screen and performs an animation
Post by: dragon__lance on December 17, 2005, 07:51:00 am
awesome screens, yea, i agree, thats wat we should do. anyways, i think that maybe on main screen, should have a bar to indicate "soul focus". above each char. and maybe for battle lineup, char that goes first is in the front, while the char that goes last is in the back. wat do u think?
Post by: necro on December 17, 2005, 05:23:00 pm
Some items ideas:
>Weapons: (sword) Wooden Sword, Armos Sword, Staflos Blade, Magic Sword, Biggoron Sword, Master Sword, (bow) Deku Bow, Steel Bow, Moblin's Bow, Silver Bow, War Bow, Fairey Bow, (hammer) Metal Hamer, Malot, Goron Hamer, Megaton Hamer, Skeleton Maul, Fanged Maul, (Spear) Wooden Spear, Bambo pike, Dark Nut Spear, Wooden Lance, Hero's Lance, Fairy Lance, (Chains) Whip, Flog, Chain, Mourning Flail, Tearful Chain, Chains of Fate
Armor: Forest Tunic, Padded Shirt, Chain Mail, Scale Mail, Woven Silver, Magic Tunic, Deku Sheild, Large Sheild, Armos Sheild, Hero's Sheild, Mirrored Sheild
Main/Quest items:
Sling Shot, Magic Dust, Power Bracelit, Pegasus Boots, Cane of Byrania, Din's Fire, Naturu's Love, Faror's Wind, Fate's Turn, Red crystal, Blue Crystal, Yellow Crystal, Ocirina, Song of souls, Zelda's Lulaby, Timeless March, Fate's Melody, Roc's Faether, Hook Shot, Lense Of Seeing, Shovel, Magnetic Gloves, Deku Nut, The Tome, Boomerang, Bottles
Post by: dragon__lance on December 17, 2005, 05:49:00 pm
Post by: necro on December 17, 2005, 06:05:00 pm
Post by: dragon__lance on December 19, 2005, 02:19:00 pm
the map size will be 31*19, should fit quite nicely into ram(whole matrix)
don't worry about white space, itll be filled with some background sprites when its actually coded. :)
ill probably change movement to link always stay in center to accomodate this :D
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one of my goals for Zelda is for it to be an Rpg like Final Fantasy, but will still have that "zelda" feel when u play it. Hope we're up to it :P
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 19, 2005, 03:10:00 pm
Post by: necro on December 20, 2005, 02:30:00 pm
As far as length, would it be neat if we tried to hit the 288 hour mark (10 full days) as that would be a remarkable amount of length. If you made it so there were plenty of fetch the itm side quests, it could alow you to tack on time, as could fighting tons of enemies. As far as leveling up...perhaps level tops at 999 but the player isn't informed of level ups, they just find skill points available for their characters. Also, I think after a certain level (say 30), enemies that are >%40 weaker than you become very rare and their parties drop in size.
Post by: dragon__lance on December 21, 2005, 03:37:00 pm
as for the items, u wanna list where each item will be located, this gives me a better awareness when making maps B)
and secret hearts too! ;)
Post by: necro on December 24, 2005, 05:27:00 pm
Post by: dragon__lance on December 25, 2005, 08:26:00 am
tree stump,
waterfall
maybe some npc's
thanks, btw, zelda is now switched to Link always stay in center of screen, just tested and it looks a lot better !
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 06, 2006, 07:50:00 am
Maybe you could include something similar in your game :D
Post by: dragon__lance on January 06, 2006, 12:45:00 pm
:bow::bow: nver seen that before. don't worry, i won't reveal it to anyone else ;) and yeah, we'll probably try to do something like that, i think our intro will look like that! :) and short cutscenes throughout the game!
Post by: necro on January 06, 2006, 05:13:00 pm
Post by: dragon__lance on January 06, 2006, 05:36:00 pm
We do have a large number of pic to work with Necro, so if we could have our quality up to that level...
Post by: necro on January 06, 2006, 05:45:00 pm
Post by: dragon__lance on January 06, 2006, 06:23:00 pm
Post by: necro on January 06, 2006, 06:28:00 pm
Post by: dragon__lance on January 08, 2006, 02:15:00 pm
Now i'm thinking about plot again,Plot(in order):
-Vaitti invades Hyrule Castle, extracts triforce from Zelda or King and shatters it, peices spread across Real World, Nightmare World, and His own heart.
-Link awakes from coma and is found by Saria in Deku Forest.
-go find Elder(guardian of Great Deku Tree), but he is lost within the Great Deku Tree, thus, must go inside to find him
-once elder is found, he tells of ancient quest about a hero who stood up to face evil, then tells Link and Saria their quest to find the triforce peices.Tell them to find woman named Impa at Hyrule Market
-At Hyrule market, impa tells u a clue(don't know what) that one triforce peice is hidden in Royal Tombs?
-...........(don't know what happens in middle)
-face vaitti down in his castle, link and saria both die, the sad ending u talked about.
As for overworld map, i think that ur's will work fine, just some tweaks i might make, like i think that we should move Hyrule Castle from middle of map, to the base of Death Mountain.
For Dungeons: i actually never played through a full game of Zelda so i'm little lacking info, wats a moblin? so i don't really know about moblin village, would it be ok if we turned that into the Forest Shrine/Temple in Nightmare World. Then in Nightmare world, the dungeons could be all elements: Wind, Fire, Water, and Forest. As for real world: Roc's Tower, Deku Tree(though thats more of a starting dungeon and won't contain a triforce peice), Royal Tombs, maybe Death Mountain?(though i don't really want the player to go through 2 mountain dungeons), maybe TimeShrine too?(though that might be in Nightmare world). one last thing, could u maybe write up a detailed walkthrough of full storyline when u have the time, thatd be great. Thanks.
Post by: necro on January 08, 2006, 05:02:00 pm
I will put a full story together as soon as possible.
Post by: dragon__lance on March 03, 2006, 10:47:00 am
-better vaitti
-a switch
-ruby
thanks(this is urgent)
Post by: necro on March 03, 2006, 08:23:00 pm
PS: use my aol email adress for urgent requests and stuff ([email protected]) as it always empty and the first thing I see when I log on
PSS:what kind of switch exactly? (describe it)
Post by: necro on March 04, 2006, 05:43:00 pm
Post by: dragon__lance on March 05, 2006, 11:54:00 am
um, basically things are the same, but in final game form. Run prgmzintro to get started. I'm starting at the point where link wake up from nightmare(intro). If u notice, u can cut plants/jars and rubies/heart will appear. Also the entrances are blocked till u talk to the elder. I want to plan a item system? Do u think itd be viable to have a screen where link gets an item, or should it just be in the text box?Anyways, gonna start on Deku Forest now...(on 83+, the text doesn't run well, the screen will mysteriously clear before text is displayed?...on the SE's it seems to work fine thoiugh...)
Switch description:I'm planning kinda like Spencer's zelda, basically a little statue and when u hit it, it inverts color...or if u think itd be better to have a step on switch, both should work fine...
Post by: necro on March 05, 2006, 04:20:00 pm
also, looks like kerm plans on making a map maker
Post by: dragon__lance on March 06, 2006, 02:12:00 pm
Oh i forgot, when u run zintro, make sure to have zm11 and zm11a both archived, or else u'll run out of mem and get mem-error! so how's the prgm working for u? also, once u rip the sprites, could u also maybe rip some indoor castle tiles for the intro. Then maybe start working on the battle system...thanks
Post by: necro on March 06, 2006, 06:57:00 pm
http://sprites.fireball20xl.com/nintendo/zelda/la.htm
Post by: dragon__lance on March 08, 2006, 02:34:00 pm
Well, working on deku forest. My plan is to make a guardian block the path to the DekuTree. He wants u to bring him 3 deku nuts before u can pass. Then, u have to find the deku nuts in the forest in chests. All the while learning how to play the game, so like a tutorial dungeon. What do u think?
Post by: necro on March 08, 2006, 03:10:00 pm
Post by: dragon__lance on March 10, 2006, 01:53:00 pm
Post by: necro on March 10, 2006, 05:08:00 pm
yep, it works with older xlib but not with the newwest version from ticalc.org/omnimaga archives (on my calc at least)...I think the hieght/width of the map might be the problem as its the only thing I can think of. Any ways, the memory being used is an issue and we need to put the pics in archive.
Weird, just to check I re-sent it because I was going to give tr1p1 a bug report other wise, but it works now... :ihatemycomp:
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 11, 2006, 02:02:00 am
Post by: necro on March 11, 2006, 02:31:00 pm
Post by: dragon__lance on March 12, 2006, 01:00:00 pm
Anyways, do u agree with the method of storing stuff on the map, my plan is to just use an event list, zev, and it stores it in the matrix. And another thing is wat do u think should happen when Link gets an item? a special screen pop up?
Post by: kalan_vod on March 12, 2006, 04:32:00 pm