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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2010, 05:50:19 pm »
I guess they're sponsored by TI themselves so they keep their monopoly... X.x


By the way, any luck getting a new calc Rayquaz59?
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2010, 10:38:14 am »
well, I spoke to my father 1 hour ago, and we were talking about the TI-Nspire.

I've asked my maths teacher, and because he knows I like programming, he said Nspire would be perfect, he said that the Nspire CAS was better (he even gave me the sheet for the teachers kit in france, it's as expensive as a 2nd hand calc, but it's 10€ more expensive for the TI-Nspire)

everything i write may look not clear, but I mean that the TI-Nspires I found on Internet are cheaper than the Nspires my teacher can get

and yesterday somebody was selling (on leboncoin.fr ) a TI-Nspire CAS for 70€ which wasn't used (a new one).

And as my maths exam is in two weeks, it is more likely to be an anticipated Christmas gift  :angel: O0
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2010, 05:51:04 pm »
Wait, so he suggested you a Nspire because you like programming? Is he just trying to prevent you to code or something, knowing the Nspire BASIC language is limited and that it's hard to jailbreak it in some cases?

Maybe you should at least try to get a regular nspire, even if he suggests the CAS, and make sure to get a 84 keypad as well.
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2010, 04:09:32 am »
do you mean  no TI-84 keypad is included ??? ??? !!!! :o O.O :crazy:
« Last Edit: December 05, 2010, 04:40:33 am by rayquaza59 »
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2010, 04:36:04 am »
Quote from: rayquaza59 on December 04, 2010, 10:38:14 am
I've asked my maths teacher, and because he knows I like programming, he said Nspire would be perfect, he said that the Nspire CAS was better...

O.O

The Nspire is widely known as the worst platform for programming in the community. Plus, the 89 Titanium has a CAS as well...

But, they're both usable with if you exploit the Nspire with Ndless.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2010, 04:36:19 am by Qwerty.55 »
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2010, 04:39:55 am »
OK, but what is Ndless made for??
and, as I saw on Internet, 2nd hand 89 Titaniums are more expensive than Nspires....
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2010, 04:48:54 am »
Ndless is for running Assembly programs. But Assembly programs can't access the CAS without some effort.

I didn't know about the price, though.
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2010, 04:56:23 am »
Quote from: Qwerty.55 on December 05, 2010, 04:48:54 am
Ndless is for running Assembly programs. But Assembly programs can't access the CAS without some effort.

I didn't know about the price, though.

I didn't know too =p but when I saw some for 120-150€ (only 2nd hands, no packaging :S ) and TI-Nspire in their original package for 70€, I was astonished :o
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2010, 04:57:12 am »
Quote from: rayquaza59 on December 05, 2010, 04:09:32 am
do you mean  no TI-84 keypad is included ??? ??? !!!! :o O.O :crazy:
It depends how old is the package. If it's from 2009 or something, it should be included. Otherwise, it isn't anymore.

As for Ndless it is used to open your TI-Nspire to ASM/C programs, which are normally impossible on this calc. It's called jailbreaking, kinda like iPhones, PSP and PS3 hacking.
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2010, 04:59:57 am »
ok.... but does jailbreaking, as it does on Iphones and PS3s, destroy the warranty?

the guy told me it's the most recent model... which I saw in carrefour my supermarket yesterday.... at 205€ :S
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2010, 05:01:41 am »
It depends. If jailbreaking the calc damages its software (less likely to happen), it would, if you cannot revert the changes, but otherwise, you can reformat the calc and reinstall the OS and they won't notice.
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2010, 05:02:55 am »
so if it crashes, it only crashes the software part? not the hardware?
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2010, 05:12:47 am »
The software, but normally, unless a software messes with your archive memory and writes stuff to the wrong areas, it should be fine, and even in the case where it would write to the wrong areas, if it touches the OS, you can simply wipe the OS and reinstall a new copy. The real bad part is if it deletes/alters the boot code page or its equivalent. On the 83+, it was the OS certificate.
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2010, 05:17:37 am »
are the TI-84 keypads included with the most recent models of TI-Nspire CAS? On the photos I can't see any space for it, but I saw it is present on one of the models.....
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Re: A choice to make between a Casio and a TI
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2010, 05:17:54 am »
About the price though: Here in the US, the Nspire is still more expensive than the 84+.
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