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Battery in my calc exploded
« on: October 17, 2010, 03:06:23 pm »
I was playing gbc4nspire on my calc 15 mins ago, and the calc turned off. I assumed the emulator had crashed, so I removed the keypad to pull a battery, but when I opened it, one battery went bang, and it was smoking, and battery paste was inside the compartment.

Before anyone asks, yes, the batteries were all in the right way.

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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2010, 03:08:50 pm »
Pics or it didn't happen.

And before anyone says anything else. Are you okay?

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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2010, 03:11:30 pm »
Yes, I'm fine, but my mom is freaking out. (The calc was on my bed, and she is insisting on getting all the sheets washed)
Unfortunately, I already cleaned it out, but I could get a pic of the battery.

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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2010, 03:14:44 pm »
Glad to hear you are alright!

Is your Nspire ok, or is it destroyed too?

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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 03:17:14 pm »
That might happen if the battery terminals got shorted together somehow by something metallic. Or maybe it was a very strange defect in the battery or it somehow developed an internal short or something weird like that.
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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 03:17:19 pm »
yikes! Holy crap man...

now it is a whodunit

the nspire, the battery, the emu, or ndless

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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2010, 03:18:53 pm »
yikes! Holy crap man...

now it is a whodunit

the nspire, the battery, the emu, or ndless
Blame TI :D

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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2010, 03:19:18 pm »
I think it was just the battery.  If it was any of the other three, I am sure this would have happened earlier.


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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2010, 03:19:43 pm »
I'm not sure about the calc - I'm waiting for some rechargeable batteries to charge. (Don't want to use batteries form the same batch)
I had alkaline batteries in there, btw.

If the calc is bricked, then at least I have an excuse to buy a Prizm :)
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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2010, 03:27:28 pm »
If it was an internal short, you probably don't have a calculator anymore. It takes a lot of heat to break the battery compartment as compared to what the electronics can handle. Although, if TI was smart, they had temperature shutoff circuits installed into the processor to prevent overheating. Not much chance of that, though.

If it was an intracell short, then you may or may not have a calculator depending on exactly what happened.

If it was software, then you almost certainly don't have a calculator. Software is notoriously bad at regulating batteries.

EDIT: You need an excuse to buy a Prizm?  ;)
« Last Edit: October 17, 2010, 03:28:10 pm by Qwerty.55 »
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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2010, 03:35:38 pm »
Well, the battery was leaking around the top edge, where the outer wrapping ends.
If I had my way, I would buy a prizm anyways, but my parents would say it is a waste of money.
EDIT: Also, the batteries had been in the calc for around 3 hours prior to this, and the calc had been used for around an hour.
EDIT: The calc still works!
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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2010, 03:45:18 pm »
Dude, get the sheets cleaned anyway. Makes your mom happy, and you don't have to worry about battery acid!  Seriously, I think there is a defect with the batteries.  Of course, if it is bricked, then by all means din't get rid of it!  Write your own os and have it just be a test device.

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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2010, 03:48:23 pm »
I just said it works in the previous post^
But if it were bricked, how could it be a test device ???

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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2010, 03:53:07 pm »
If it was an internal short, you probably don't have a calculator anymore. It takes a lot of heat to break the battery compartment as compared to what the electronics can handle. Although, if TI was smart, they had temperature shutoff circuits installed into the processor to prevent overheating. Not much chance of that, though.

If it was an intracell short, then you may or may not have a calculator depending on exactly what happened.

If it was software, then you almost certainly don't have a calculator. Software is notoriously bad at regulating batteries.

Ah, I was probably a bit ambiguous there. I was thinking of a short internal to the cell itself, though I don't know whether that's actually common with alkaline cells (I've never heard of it, personally). It sometimes happens with rechargeables, though I think it's rare for the internal short to actually draw enough current to generate that much heat and an explosion (usually, the symptom is simply a cell that completely drains itself in a matter of hours or days after a full charge, even if not used—I have a few worn-out NiMH cells that exhibit this condition).

It seems unlikely, but maybe somehow a battery terminal or something shorted the terminals of that one cell together. I think I've heard of a rare case or two before of a poorly-designed battery compartment damaging the insulation on the cell and causing this, leading to a product recall.

Although I've never seen it happen firsthand, one thing I've heard of quite frequently over the years are TI calculators that seem to drain batteries in an excessively short period of time for no apparent reason. I guess somehow something in the calculator circuitry develops a defect that draws excessive current from the batteries in these cases.
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Re: Battery in my calc exploded
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2010, 03:56:33 pm »
I was thinking of a short internal to the cell itself, though I don't know whether that's actually common with alkaline cells (I've never heard of it, personally).

Well, that's what I was referring to. Some Alkaline batteries have multiple cells inside, I believe. Each side of each piece of filter is one cell.
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