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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2013, 11:14:13 pm »
So the emulator should come with the CD which comes with the package, right?

Umm, no, unfortunately.

There are a couple options.

Make a Window$ VM, install fx-cg manager 90 day trial, and whenever the trial period runs out, restore the VM to te state right after you installed it.

I don't think that's illegal, BTW, but someone please verify that.

The other option is to buy it.

But no, the CD in the package only comes with the trial version.

And it has the manual. You no longer get paper manuals. >.<
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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2013, 11:16:13 pm »
Well, you're essentially cracking their software, so technically that falls under warez.

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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2013, 12:06:04 am »
It's illegal, but they can't do much. Plus they're not helping themselves by not providing a Buy link after the trial expires nor an online downloadable version.

Don't go loud about how you did it but that's actually the trick I used to :P. In fact maybe the advice above might have to be edited in case, because last year Casio had such posts and they lost all their advertising x.x

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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2013, 06:25:28 am »
Well, we don't have to worry nearly so much about that, seeing as we're self funded (and this is nowhere near as potentially illegal as many sites.)

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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 08:48:19 am »
How to do it without a VM?
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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 08:52:41 am »
That depends greatly on how the system it uses works. If it does some kind of internal time measurement, then cheating it will be difficult. If it just looks at the system clock, though, you can just set your computer's date back 28 years, which keeps the dates the same.

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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2013, 09:33:21 am »
I hope the emulator from some community member gets done soon, then...

P. S. now that I think about it, why not change the registry?
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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2013, 10:29:26 am »
That only works if it stores it in the registry, rather than some encrypted data file (writeback to the binary isn't unheard of) or checking the system clock. Heck, it could very well be some solution they paid for from another company and even they don't know how it works.

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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2013, 11:56:06 am »
But if they check the system clock, then wouldn't they need to store the date of activation somewhere?
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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2013, 11:58:16 am »
That doesn't have to be the registry, which I explain in my post. You can write a program very easily that stores data to a file, and later reads that data. How do you think save files work? Writing to the registry is generally harder than using your own files.

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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2013, 02:01:50 pm »
all i know is that system restore resets the install... because i have done it myself.



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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2013, 03:52:02 pm »
But who would store the data to the file, when someone could delete it and get another 90 days?
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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2013, 09:14:54 pm »
They can store it in a hidden location, not necessarily somewhere easy to find.

Seriously, it's way easier to do this than you think.

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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2013, 12:31:12 am »
That only works if it stores it in the registry, rather than some encrypted data file (writeback to the binary isn't unheard of) or checking the system clock. Heck, it could very well be some solution they paid for from another company and even they don't know how it works.

I am sure that it doesn't check the registry nor the clock. I once checked the registry at appropriate locations and never could find anything related, unless they use some strange unrelated name. Changing clock didn't work either. I just reset my virtual XP install. I thought about updating to the paid emulator at one point, until I realized it couldn't run add-ins properly.

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Re: Forty-eight hours of programming!
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2013, 10:40:18 am »
Well, after hours of playing around on the SDK, this is what I made. It doesn't count, though, since it's just an example.
Use the arrow keys to change coordinates.
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