Author Topic: high level language compilers for the z80 (Read 3591 times)

quasi_Phthalo · « **on:** June 20, 2010, 11:40:40 pm »

I know i'd found a C compiler for the 83 once (might have been pretty basic), but are there any C++ compilers for the 83? you know, classes and all? or Java maybe?

_player1537 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2010, 11:43:21 pm »

from what I've heard, a C/C++ compiler would defeat the purpose because it would be too large of programs and would max out the 8kb limit. The C compiler I've seen is for z80 in general iirc

calc84maniac · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2010, 11:45:29 pm »

From what I've seen, C compilers don't produce very efficient code on z80. These languages are really designed for more complex, 32-bit (or more) processors, like x86, ARM, and 68k.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2010, 11:45:56 pm »

If I remember, there was z88dk and sdcc that did C. I heard the first sucked, though. It produced extremly horrible, huge and slow code. I heard the later might be good, though, but I could be wrong. And yes, there's the 8 KB code limit, unless you manage to turn your work into APP. I haven't seen any C++ ones, though.

As for Java, there is Squirrelbox on Ticalc.org and Omnimaga archives, but it barely works, apparently and produce unworking code

My concern, though, is if C compilers can't produce good code on z80, then why Axe Parser can produce rather good stuff? Is it because Axe is more limited in what it can do?

calc84maniac · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2010, 11:52:04 pm »

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on June 20, 2010, 11:45:56 pm

If I remember, there was z88dk and sdcc that did C. I heard the first sucked, though. It produced extremly horrible, huge and slow code. I heard the later might be good, though, but I could be wrong. And yes, there's the 8 KB code limit, unless you manage to turn your work into APP. I haven't seen any C++ ones, though.

As for Java, there is Squirrelbox on Ticalc.org and Omnimaga archives, but it barely works, apparently and produce unworking code

My concern, though, is if C compilers can't produce good code on z80, then why Axe Parser can produce rather good stuff? Is it because Axe is more limited in what it can do?

I think it's because Axe was designed with the z80 processor in mind, and the general coding style is very similar to z80. Plus we have those optimized graphics routines built-in

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2010, 11:56:45 pm »

Aaah ok, might be why then. Also I guess it might help that Axe syntax is pretty similar to TI-BASIC. It will let you do a lot of TI-BASIC-like stuff, but faster

quasi_Phthalo · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2010, 11:57:30 pm »

ok.... i think i'll go with Axe then and give up on making my calc more impressive than my computer. oh wait, it already is! haha

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2010, 11:59:58 pm »

Lol

Altough we have to remember it's 6 MHz (or 15 depending of your model)

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