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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2010, 09:48:50 pm »
Perhaps I should write a group undeleter then?
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2010, 09:51:01 pm »
There's a patch against PTT deleting groups (on this forum, in fact, by thepenguin77), but I think a separate tool would be useful.
It would also complement your Archive Utility/Undeleter programs for programs and appvars. :D
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2010, 09:54:31 pm »
Yeah, it's pretty sneaky.

It's been a while since I looked at Push-To-Test.  I seem to remember that entering PTT mode deletes a lot of your variables, but perhaps not all of them.  So now I'm wondering if there's anything (other than modifying the OS) that you could do beforehand to guard yourself.  Does it disable hooks in RAM?  Does it disable ONSCRPT and OFFSCRPT?  What about creatively-corrupted VAT entries?

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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2010, 09:55:02 pm »
_SetAppRestrictions modifies the certificate to enable Press-to-Test, which is why RAM clears (or OS re-sends) have no effect.

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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2010, 09:56:54 pm »
Hm... Hooks are definitely gone. Going to the PTT menu and quitting without entering PTT mode kills all hooks anyway.
I'm not sure about your corrupted VAT entries, nor ONSCRPT and OFFSCRPT. ;D
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2010, 09:59:58 pm »
So basically, you press left, right, and on to start test mode?
I'm afraid to try this on my calc - what does this do, precisely?
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2010, 10:03:36 pm »
It brings up a menu from which you can start PTT mode.
It disable all apps and programs and prevents you from creating new ones. It also deletes all groups.
You end it by receiving a variable.
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2010, 10:04:12 pm »
o.o
Any way to circumvent it?
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2010, 10:06:10 pm »
Install a patch. Several are on ticalc.org :)
We're discussing the scenario of if you don't have a link cable and how to possible work around it. (So far, no luck. :()
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2010, 10:08:51 pm »
Interesting - just tried it, and nothing is happening.  Do I have to press the keys in a particular order?
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2010, 10:09:57 pm »
Turn the calc off. Hold down left and right while pressing ON.
If it doesn't work, your OS version is too old or a patch is already installed somehow.
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2010, 10:11:18 pm »
o.o  Cool.
I will stop asking n00b questions now.
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2010, 10:28:37 pm »
I made a program that installs a counter push to test sequence. Up Down ON uninstalls it.

Umm... I'm not sure that this is the best of ideas, but here are all the programs that I have made that patch the OS:

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-Addr series: OS 1.19, 2.43, 2.53fixes ERR:Bad address when grouping and ungrouping
-ChkSmFix: OS 2.43 Fixes the OS checksum (only necessary for 2.43 fixes)
-Mod253: OS 2.53, my pride and joy, Un PTT (UP DOWN ON), PTT deletes require [stat] also, about screen (be sure to recompile with your name), give back classic ram clear screen, fixes ERR:Bad Address, and PTT doesn't delete groups
-NoDel series: OS 2.43, 2.53, PTT doesn't delete groups
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-Versn series: OS 2.43, 2.53, Fixes error version on groups.

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Some of these don't have OS version checks, so be sure you are doing it on the right OS.
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2010, 10:32:40 pm »
Wow I was sure a RAM clear exited PTT mode. Does ON+DEL exit it?

Also Mapar007 was the one who wrote one of the PTT patches on ticalc.org.
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Re: How can one remove a TI-84+(SE) from push-to-test mode with no link cable?
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2010, 10:38:54 pm »
Nothing you can possibly do will fix it because it is stored in the certificate. A full mem clear won't do it. Even a delete OS, run flash test, reinstall operating system won't fix it. I guess the only thing aside from properly fixing it would be to delete the certificate.

However, PTT does have one fatal flaw, it doesn't disable OFFSCRPT. Which means, put bcall(_removeAppRestrictions) in OFFSCRPT and never worry again.
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