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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2009, 04:27:38 pm »
Using Tilp II

I adapted very well. But TI-Connect is easier to use and manage files (much nicer icons) but tilp is much faster.
I have still TI-connect in other computer to use sometimes.  :P

No doubt both the programs have their moods... I wonder if someone pulled tilp to overkill TI-Connect. ;D
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2009, 09:34:05 pm »
Really the issue is TILP has a better back end to it and the actual linking routines are well written but the front end or UI is poorly written and could use a lot of improvement. The opposite is true for TI-Connect, its UI is pretty but what it does behind the scenes will kill your calc.
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2009, 10:10:40 pm »
I does not knows what you guys are talking about (* I do not know what you guys are talking about..)
TI-Connect always works for me, the only problem I had was when I didn't read instructions and I plugged the calculator into the computer without having the disk installed first... and it got all messed 0x5
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2009, 07:16:33 am »
The way ti-cennect does its transfers will where out your flashchip faster than the method tilp uses, TILP also supports more types of home made cables like the parallel link which will never be supported in TI-Connect. Plus TILP is cross platform so you can use it on LINUX based systems as well as Windows.
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2009, 03:30:27 pm »
Isn't TiLP much faster at transfering too? Again, I only ever tried with the old black serial TI-Graph Link cable, though, that came with my TI-83+SE in early 2002. In TI_Connect sometimes transfer would take about 10 seconds to even start at all, not to mention it caused the PC to hang completly until transfer actually began. When transfer began, it went at a quite good speed, tho. However with TiLP everything seemed twice faster and no loading time before transfering. TI-Graph Link gotta be the slowest of all, though, but back when I got my TI-83+ Silver Edition, TI-Connect and TiLP didn't even exist at all.
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2009, 04:31:26 pm »
I couldnt use TiLP, I tried but I didn't know how to do it right, and TI-Connect works fine for me and has more features. I couldn't figure out how to even get a file!! I also couldn't get a group to send. I guess TI-Connect works better for newer version calculators, because it never acted up unless I sent Joltima, and we all got together and solved that in last weeks puzzle challenge.
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2009, 04:35:20 pm »
I have the same impression tilp is faster...
But maybe the non-sense time starting of ti-connect makes this impression subjective...
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2009, 04:41:01 pm »
TiLP lack of user friendliness is indeed an issue. On top of that when I downloaded it the readme was out of date and misleading. It seemed they updated the software but left the readme for TiLP 1 or something. Took me a long while to figure out how to even send files
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2009, 10:36:26 am »
so wait.. using Ti-connect can wear out your FlashChip?  *Whats a Flash Chip? and whats it used for XD?
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2009, 02:40:28 pm »
the flash chip is your flash memory, so the archive
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2009, 08:37:15 pm »
I see. but it wouldn't be possible to run purely on ram would it? cause im guessing the TI-OS in archive..
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2009, 11:40:14 pm »
I think the flash memory can be overwritten 200000 times or so

after about 20 years, a calc used to program extensively would prbly stop working or something, but I'm unsure how. I do know Casio AFX  calcs lasts a few years because they also use flash memory. I am unsure how stuff is stored in it, though
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2009, 10:44:29 pm »
okay. good. Cause i was thinking if i kept porting stuff into my Ti-84 i would have to get a replacement soon.. but in 20 years lol.. id prolly have to get another one anyways.(cause the Ti-84 would b so outdated)
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Re: Is TI-Connect really THAT Bad?
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2009, 05:20:11 pm »
To change data in ROM (the flash archive on the TI calculators), it first must be cleared, which is accomplished by applying a large voltage to a part of the chip to set/reset some connectors/links.  Then, another high voltage is applied to the necessary "links" to set them.  You can probably figure out how it can get worn out.  But that takes a ton of writes, and you probably won't get to the limit where damage occurs during the lifetime of your calculator.

Quote from: Ti-newb on June 01, 2009, 08:37:15 pm
I see. but it wouldn't be possible to run purely on ram would it? cause im guessing the TI-OS in archive..
The ROM page that the TI-OS is on rarely gets modified, so you shouldn't need to worry about the OS getting 'worn out'.
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