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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2011, 08:42:28 am »
Nice, that means we can make it even faster now! ;)
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2011, 01:27:53 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on December 31, 2010, 07:06:29 pm
SNES emulation might be hard for games like Star Ocean, Star Fox, Mario RPG or other games using all sort of special chips, but otherwise it should be easy. I guess even chipped games should be doable, but they would run slower. I think with Star Fox, you have to emulate an additional 30 MHz, right?

what about Super Castlevania 4?
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2011, 06:52:57 am »
I did just run nover with ndless 2.1
without having changed anything the nspire displays:

Base / CPU = 2
CPU / AHB = 2
Base / AHB = 4
Base = 240 Mhz
CPU = 120 Mhz
AHB = 60 Mhz

So Ti has made OS2.1 run the CPU at 4/3 of 2.0's speed and AHB  4 times faster
« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 06:53:07 am by shrear »
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2011, 06:59:13 am »
Quote from: shrear on January 03, 2011, 06:52:57 am
I did just run nover with ndless 2.1
without having changed anything the nspire displays:

Base / CPU = 2
CPU / AHB = 2
Base / AHB = 4
Base = 240 Mhz
CPU = 120 Mhz
AHB = 60 Mhz

Very interesting, thanks.
Unfortunately, as allready noticed setting this on a previous OS is causing problems with screen refreshing.

Maybe TI has fixed the idle loop bug on OS 2.1 ?
Or maybe there is another parameter that has to be set...
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2011, 07:01:26 am »
Quote from: critor on January 03, 2011, 06:59:13 am
Maybe TI has fixed the idle loop bug on OS 2.1 ?
Or maybe there is another parameter that has to be set...

changed base to 300 Mhz...





...esc





...screen still normal :) :)



Edit: Tested it Nspire is really another 4/3 faster
« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 07:22:42 am by shrear »
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2011, 07:37:48 am »
Wonderfull!!!

It would be great if we could overclock previous OSes to 300MHz base (instead of 180MHz) without having that screen problem.

Upgrading from 2.0 to 2.1 makes you lose 1.4Mb of free space.
It's useless to fasten the cpu, if we don't have enough free space anymore to store BMP/WAD files...

Check the free space available after a full reset with each OS in english language (can change but very slightly with another language):


("light" is what you're getting when patching your TNO/TNC file with TNOC)
« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 08:13:28 am by critor »
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2011, 07:52:46 am »
Quote from: critor on January 03, 2011, 07:37:48 am
Check the free space available after a full reset with each OS in english language (can change but very slightly with another language):ac=voir&id=1922]TNOC[/url])[/i]
Aren't all the languages stored in the OS, no matter what language is used?
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2011, 08:08:24 am »
Quote from: JosJuice on January 03, 2011, 07:52:46 am
Quote from: critor on January 03, 2011, 07:37:48 am
Check the free space available after a full reset with each OS in english language (can change but very slightly with another language):ac=voir&id=1922]TNOC[/url])[/i]
Aren't all the languages stored in the OS, no matter what language is used?

Read about the patch.
The difference doesn't come from the translated system strings, but from the samples which are included in all languages in the TNO/TNC file. (around 15 languages if I remember well - that's a huge size!)
When you select the working language, the matching samples are extracted from the TNC file which is kept in "/phoenix/install/" and copied to the file system, which is making the little difference.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 08:11:28 am by critor »
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2011, 08:11:04 am »
I have updated Hackspire with this info, could you please check I didn't write anything wrong?
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2011, 08:24:22 am »
Quote from: ExtendeD on January 03, 2011, 08:11:04 am
I have updated Hackspire with this info, could you please check I didn't write anything wrong?
looks correct to me
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2011, 02:52:34 pm »
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raw config: 2
Base = 300 MHz
CPU = 150 MHz
AHB = 150 MHzThese settings seem to work on OS 2.1 without any problems, and are apparently the fastest we can achieve through programs.
I'll keep these settings on my calc, and see if I run into any long-term problems...

EDIT: I also tried with raw config=0, but the calc froze...
« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 03:17:19 pm by Silver Shadow »
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2011, 04:43:10 pm »
Quote from: critor on January 03, 2011, 08:08:24 am
Quote from: JosJuice on January 03, 2011, 07:52:46 am
Quote from: critor on January 03, 2011, 07:37:48 am
Check the free space available after a full reset with each OS in english language (can change but very slightly with another language):ac=voir&id=1922]TNOC[/url])[/i]
Aren't all the languages stored in the OS, no matter what language is used?
Could we use an ndless program to delete those?

Read about the patch.
The difference doesn't come from the translated system strings, but from the samples which are included in all languages in the TNO/TNC file. (around 15 languages if I remember well - that's a huge size!)
When you select the working language, the matching samples are extracted from the TNC file which is kept in "/phoenix/install/" and copied to the file system, which is making the little difference.
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2011, 05:13:02 pm »
Quote from: fb39ca4 on January 03, 2011, 04:43:10 pm
Quote from: critor on January 03, 2011, 08:08:24 am
Quote from: JosJuice on January 03, 2011, 07:52:46 am
Quote from: critor on January 03, 2011, 07:37:48 am
Check the free space available after a full reset with each OS in english language (can change but very slightly with another language):ac=voir&id=1922]TNOC[/url])[/i]
Aren't all the languages stored in the OS, no matter what language is used?
Could we use an ndless program to delete those?


The samples are stored in something like 15 different languages in the TNO/TNC archive, which is stored in /phoenix/install/ . That file is vital for the OS as it is used at every boot.

You've got a PC program to delete those before installing the OS: TNOC.
A Ndless program won't be easy to develop, as you'll have to port zlib.
Moreover, if anything goes wrong with the Ndless program, your OS won't boot again (with TNOC, the patched file just won't install -> nothing dangerous).
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2011, 02:53:26 pm »
Quote from: critor on January 03, 2011, 07:37:48 am
Wonderfull!!!

It would be great if we could overclock previous OSes to 300MHz base (instead of 180MHz) without having that screen problem.

Upgrading from 2.0 to 2.1 makes you lose 1.4Mb of free space.
It's useless to fasten the cpu, if we don't have enough free space anymore to store BMP/WAD files...

Check the free space available after a full reset with each OS in english language (can change but very slightly with another language):


("light" is what you're getting when patching your TNO/TNC file with TNOC)
Pretty huge difference indeed. I am still a bit scared of how large OSes will be in two years or so. X.x
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Re: Let's overclock Nspire to x2 or x4
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2011, 02:55:32 pm »
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