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Make PTT not Delete Groups
« on: July 17, 2011, 06:14:05 pm »


Here's what I did. Go to the reset ram menu, (2nd, +, 7, 1) and press 2, let go of 2, and hold clear really fast. If you did it right, your archive will appear to be empty. Then, just do the classic left + right + ON, and enable press to test. Everything will look normal. But after a quick ram clear, your archive is back including your groups.

This same trick can be used to:
  • Protect your programs from 5+8+ON
  • Protect your programs from 2+8+ON (Singapore)
  • Protect your programs from the entire Reset Ram>Archive menu, (2nd, +, 7, right)



I know I've already made OS patches to beat it, but the key here is that this doesn't require OS patches. So at least now, if you ever get stuck in a weird situation, you can get by without deleting your groups. If you're lucky, you might even be able to trick your teacher with the Clear Arc vars too.
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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 08:34:26 pm »
Wow, this is nice!  :)

Will this protect your programs from the Reset All menu too?

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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 08:40:00 pm »
Wow.  Just wow...

TI is really failing now.  :P
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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 09:44:06 pm »
Woah.  How did you discover this?
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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 09:56:52 pm »
Bahahaha.

That's quite the fail on TI's fault.
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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 07:50:58 pm »
Bit of a necropost, but my first time seeing the topic.
Nice. Not surprising that TI would implement clearing programs in the Archive by deleting the ones listed in the VAT.
It doesn't seem like it'd protect apps, though, because even after resetting RAM while holding [Clear] they still show up, right?
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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 04:48:46 am »
Bit of a necropost, but my first time seeing the topic.
Necro? It was just posted a couple days ago
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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2011, 06:09:56 am »
Very nice penguin! What an improvement to ti's OS.

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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2011, 08:35:41 am »
That's cool !

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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2011, 11:33:31 am »
Necro? It was just posted a couple days ago
4 days. :P At what point is a topic considered dead, then?
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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2011, 12:56:25 pm »
Very impressive!  Nice to see some of these flaws in the 84 OS exposed! :)


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Re: Make PTT not Delete Groups
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2011, 04:10:37 pm »
Necro? It was just posted a couple days ago
4 days. :P At what point is a topic considered dead, then?

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