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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2011, 02:04:26 pm »
I didn't quite understand that insult attempt from him to me O.O. But yeah since 2009 I never took his stuff seriously, because he always only tried to control how we run the site, and whenever we get angry at him for criticising everything our staff or myself does, he does stunt like this (although this PM was the worst so far.) Normally he simply bashes Omni in public calc channels.

Also on a side note I also got a copy of that PM via e-mail, but it was in my spam folder last night. And I did get this message, which DrDnar forwarded to me as I had joeyoung on my ignore lists:

[02:18:07]  * DJ_O ([email protected]) has joined #ti
[02:30:54]  * Buckeye ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
[02:47:22] <JoeYoung> Hey DJ_O, I don't know who it is but I've gotten death threats anonymously from somebody at the forums.
[02:48:48] <JoeYoung> They've been brief enough but I'd prefer if they stopped.
[02:53:08]  * JoeYoung ([email protected]) has left #ti (Leaving)

http://netham45.org/irc/EfNet/view.php?log=ti.20110707

Also My IRC connection is utter crap, and I remember disconnecting at that time, so I bet that even if I didn't ignore him I would have missed his lines of text anyway.

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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2011, 03:20:01 pm »
Anyone who would flame anyone else like this is a fucktard and should be eliminated.
I know I'm running a risk by presenting an opposing opinion, but that's being as bad as what you're criticizing him for, isn't it? :) Surely you can respond to such a PM by rising above the level of (im)maturity and hatred that you're claiming this PM expresses by responding with calmness, placidity, and ignorance (as in ignoring it) instead?

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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2011, 03:52:40 pm »
Anyone who would flame anyone else like this is a fucktard and should be eliminated.
I know I'm running a risk by presenting an opposing opinion, but that's being as bad as what you're criticizing him for, isn't it? :) Surely you can respond to such a PM by rising above the level of (im)maturity and hatred that you're claiming this PM expresses by responding with calmness, placidity, and ignorance (as in ignoring it) instead?
You are correct ignoring it is the better way to go, and unfortunately I was too upset myself to ignore it and I responded in kind. This was a mistake because I was feeding the troll. My mistake :/
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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2011, 04:16:55 pm »
Anyone who would flame anyone else like this is a fucktard and should be eliminated.
I know I'm running a risk by presenting an opposing opinion, but that's being as bad as what you're criticizing him for, isn't it? :) Surely you can respond to such a PM by rising above the level of (im)maturity and hatred that you're claiming this PM expresses by responding with calmness, placidity, and ignorance (as in ignoring it) instead?
You are correct ignoring it is the better way to go, and unfortunately I was too upset myself to ignore it and I responded in kind. This was a mistake because I was feeding the troll. My mistake :/
I don't really think this was trolling. While I don't agree with him or how he went about things don't you think he may have some valid points? Whether or not he presented them in the most appropriate method is a different question. He was harsh but behind that harshness he was trying to make a point. Whether you want to listen or not is up to you, you can just blow him off and ignore him as a troll or you could actually read what he said and think about it and act from there.

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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2011, 05:17:35 pm »
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-happiness-dispatch/201106/just-deal-it-really

I didn't come here for drama. I came here to program, and I'd like it if we could please just stick to that subject.
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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2011, 05:18:53 pm »
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-happiness-dispatch/201106/just-deal-it-really

I didn't come here for drama. I came here to program, and I'd like it if we could please just stick to that subject.
If you didn't come here for the drama then stay away from it.

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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2011, 05:21:48 pm »
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-happiness-dispatch/201106/just-deal-it-really

I didn't come here for drama. I came here to program, and I'd like it if we could please just stick to that subject.
If you didn't come here for the drama then stay away from it.
Are you telling me to leave Omnimaga?
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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2011, 05:23:08 pm »
He is not, he is just saying that if there isdrama going on, stay away from the part of the site it is at.
I have only seems drama once in the calculator section of the forums.  Make yourself comfortable there, it is nice (and warm :P )
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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2011, 05:23:08 pm »
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-happiness-dispatch/201106/just-deal-it-really

I didn't come here for drama. I came here to program, and I'd like it if we could please just stick to that subject.
If you didn't come here for the drama then stay away from it.
Are you telling me to leave Omnimaga?
Not at all, I'm telling you to stay away from the drama if you don't like it. So don't post in threads like this and stick to the ones about programming if that is all you are here for.
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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2011, 05:23:24 pm »
HOly crap ninja'd

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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2011, 05:45:20 pm »
Not at all, I'm telling you to stay away from the drama if you don't like it. So don't post in threads like this and stick to the ones about programming if that is all you are here for.
(This will be my last post in this thread, I promise.)
I would really just prefer if we didn't have these sorts of threads to begin with. All they do is spread negative vibes throughout the community and make everybody angry. They also do not belong in a community "free of hostility", because they are being hostile to those who are hostile to us! In the words of Mahatma Ghandi, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." We are blinding ourselves by doing this.

The best way of stopping this sort of thing is to ignore it.
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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2011, 06:03:19 pm »
Not at all, I'm telling you to stay away from the drama if you don't like it. So don't post in threads like this and stick to the ones about programming if that is all you are here for.
(This will be my last post in this thread, I promise.)
I would really just prefer if we didn't have these sorts of threads to begin with. All they do is spread negative vibes throughout the community and make everybody angry. They also do not belong in a community "free of hostility", because they are being hostile to those who are hostile to us! In the words of Mahatma Ghandi, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." We are blinding ourselves by doing this.

The best way of stopping this sort of thing is to ignore it.
Anyone who would flame anyone else like this is a fucktard and should be eliminated.
I know I'm running a risk by presenting an opposing opinion, but that's being as bad as what you're criticizing him for, isn't it? :) Surely you can respond to such a PM by rising above the level of (im)maturity and hatred that you're claiming this PM expresses by responding with calmness, placidity, and ignorance (as in ignoring it) instead?
You are correct ignoring it is the better way to go, and unfortunately I was too upset myself to ignore it and I responded in kind. This was a mistake because I was feeding the troll. My mistake :/
Ummm...this is exactly what I was trying to say in the topic I posted earlier, but then it got locked (and subsequently moved to spam so guests cannot see it) ??? Looking back, posting it when I did was not the best idea, but why lock it? It gives the impression that the message I had was not wanted, that we should do the opposite of not responding to trolls. I'm sorry if I hurt anyone; I will never know what it feels like for someone else when they are insulted, or their ways of dealing with it, so I was being insensitive in thinking that it would be easy for everyone to ignore trolls, but I feel saying what I said was necessary after seeing Metagross111's PM, and Eeems' retaliation, because I thought the situation would deteriorate into more of the same.

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Whoah, epic ninja! :thumbsup:

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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2011, 06:10:34 pm »
Not at all, I'm telling you to stay away from the drama if you don't like it. So don't post in threads like this and stick to the ones about programming if that is all you are here for.
(This will be my last post in this thread, I promise.)
I would really just prefer if we didn't have these sorts of threads to begin with. All they do is spread negative vibes throughout the community and make everybody angry. They also do not belong in a community "free of hostility", because they are being hostile to those who are hostile to us! In the words of Mahatma Ghandi, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." We are blinding ourselves by doing this.

The best way of stopping this sort of thing is to ignore it.
Anyone who would flame anyone else like this is a fucktard and should be eliminated.
I know I'm running a risk by presenting an opposing opinion, but that's being as bad as what you're criticizing him for, isn't it? :) Surely you can respond to such a PM by rising above the level of (im)maturity and hatred that you're claiming this PM expresses by responding with calmness, placidity, and ignorance (as in ignoring it) instead?
You are correct ignoring it is the better way to go, and unfortunately I was too upset myself to ignore it and I responded in kind. This was a mistake because I was feeding the troll. My mistake :/
Ummm...this is exactly what I was trying to say in the topic I posted earlier, but then it got locked (and subsequently moved to spam so guests cannot see it) ??? Looking back, posting it when I did was not the best idea, but why lock it? It gives the impression that the message I had was not wanted, that we should do the opposite of not responding to trolls. I'm sorry if I hurt anyone; I will never know what it feels like for someone else when they are insulted, or their ways of dealing with it, so I was being insensitive in thinking that it would be easy for everyone to ignore trolls, but I feel saying what I said was necessary after seeing Metagross111's PM, and Eeems' retaliation, because I thought the situation would deteriorate into more of the same.
I'm guessing you didn't see the other thread saying the same type of thing that was locked we were locking all topic that were talking about it because we were trying to stop fueling the flames.
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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2011, 06:14:54 pm »
Ah, I didn't see the other topic, now it makes sense.

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Re: Nice PM from JoeYoung/Metagross111
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2011, 06:27:34 pm »
Anyone who would flame anyone else like this is a fucktard and should be eliminated.
I know I'm running a risk by presenting an opposing opinion, but that's being as bad as what you're criticizing him for, isn't it? :) Surely you can respond to such a PM by rising above the level of (im)maturity and hatred that you're claiming this PM expresses by responding with calmness, placidity, and ignorance (as in ignoring it) instead?

I just read my old post and I guess you're absolutely right, I was way too harsh and Im sorry about that.  I just guess I was way beyond PO'd when I read it, so I accidentally lost my reason and showed what in was thinking.  Now that I think about it clearly, I agree with you completely, the best thing would be to ignore it.  However, I still think someone (less reckless than me) should still call him out on it via a strict but calm email.

Sorry again for fueling the hate :(
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