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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2011, 02:06:23 pm »
So basically the plan is to mention Cemetech every time you start a thread about why you're unhappy at Souvik, Tanner, and the others? I don't think I like that plan too much.

It's not his fault it happened on #cemetech.  While I'm sure 99% of cemetech's users (including you of course) are clean and awesome, there are those who dislike omni, I looked at the IRC and once or twice there were people bashing omnimaga.

However DJ, I don't like your decision.  One way to show you're better than them is by staying strong and keeping the files, and ignoring them -- if they really wanna talk trash about your site, then they're just trash themselves.  And you shouldn't show any upsetness from trash.
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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2011, 02:08:27 pm »
I'm quite sure DJ_O will email me some programs if I ask, if I promise not to publish them.
It just that people who don't deserve to play his game/programs aren't able to.


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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2011, 02:51:02 pm »
Same, I can have a copy of your games? :3

And yeah, that decision you made is quite controversial...

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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2011, 02:55:31 pm »
the thing is, DJ, I think by doing what you did showed weakness to those who were trying to dropkick your emotions.  While I know you can get moody at times and make rash decisions (like many other normal people, myself included) showing weakness will just make these trash people snicker.  I say however there is still time to preserve your pride.  Just repost the files, and simply state to the trashy people that you'd rather just leave omnimaga's administration rather than put up with their stench.

But if you choose not, those of us who do know you as a proud and great person will always remember you as one of (and perhaps the biggest) the TI community's great contributors.  To tell the truth, I'll side with you no matter your choice, you're a good person who would rather take pain than inflict it on others, and a much bigger contributor than all of the people slamming you.  So, to whatever your final choice will be, cheers to your good decision in advance.  I'm still loyal to you, despite the trouble I sometimes cause you (of which I hope you can forgive me for).
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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2011, 06:22:33 pm »
Very well said ashbad, more than i could say by myself, especially the 2nd half. DJ-O, just your presence in the community makes such a big difference. Those of us who are still here in omnimaga are here to support you.
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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2011, 06:44:26 pm »
Extremely well said, Ashbad.  DJ, I agree with everything he said, especially that if you re-post the files, you'll prove to them that you're stronger than your bashers.  I will stand by you with whatever you decide, though.

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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2011, 06:57:15 pm »
Extremely well said, Ashbad.  DJ, I agree with everything he said, especially that if you re-post the files, you'll prove to them that you're stronger than your bashers.  I will stand by you with whatever you decide, though.
I have to agree as well. Plus, your files are a great part of TI-BASIC gaming history. Without them, it wouldn't be the same.


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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2011, 11:47:41 pm »
I understand your concern, but the removal of my file was planned for a few weeks already and I really had enough. I know it sounds like I am surrendering to trolls but they do not deserve these files, and I want to see improvement before putting them back up. However, even then, ticalc is gonna get tired of redeleting my files only to put them back up later. I think now it's over. I need a year or two to clean my mind from what happened in the past 2 weeks and also the past months and see how things goes. The files may return on Omni earlier, but for now they're gone.

I would also prefer to not be emailed for the files. I'll not reply. I only answer requests on a volunter basis and it's not even guaranted I'll remain active.

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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2011, 11:37:57 am »
I can see how you are feeling, DJ, and why you did what you did on ticalc.org. If those trolls decided to bash omnimaga on cemetech, I can see why you would want to get them back by taking off your files. My only problem with what you did is that you hurt thousands of happy customers in the process. Many people loved your Basic games, and they are a true legacy for everyone, looking nothing short of beautiful. By taking them off, you may or may not have hurt the trolls, but you have also hurt many, many more innocent people. Also, these users on Omnimaga might evaluate your actions and feel that you are too rash and unstable for their liking (what will he do to our following, our reputation?) and take their business to your competitors, which is exactly what the trolls wanted.
And the trolls are probably sitting at their computers hundreds of miles away, smugly, silently, sinisterly laughing.

Also, could I get the #cemetech chat logs so that I can read what the trolls said?
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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2011, 04:52:18 pm »
Well the thing is that the two people in question are not trolls, they are legitimate Cemetech contributors that unfortunately happened to be careless on the recent issue, if not selfish. Out of anger, I was unnecesarrily rude to them afterward, and I am sorry about that (and my Cemetech bashing that ensued for the same reason afterward), but it will take me several months before I recover from it.

As for my file removal, if you haven't noticed, about 90% of the new users we got in the past months were troublesome users or users that barely do any effort to respect other people. Although to a lower extent for the second category, that's the kind of people that I think that don't deserve access to my files, and sadly, they form the majority of the current generation of TI gamers. In other words, not many good users will be affected by this, especially that most already played the games long ago. My files will be back in a certain form here eventually, but outside Omni it's gonna be like in 2008, during the last wave of troublesome/careless users.

On a side note, if you never checked my profile on ticalc.org, it's not like my games were even downloaded that much anymore anyway: Most got about 1-3 downloads a week at most, the only one that had at least 10 were Zelda DLQ and Axe Tunnel. Given the amount of bots online these days and the fact the same person might download dozens of files at once, I have serious doubts this will make much difference in short term. Maybe it's just me, but after everything I did for the community without bad intentions, I feel I did not deserve the crap from a bunch of people lately, and this is my response to this.

For #cemetech logs you can maybe ask in there, but I am unsure if people are allowed to give someone logs without Kerm's permission. However, unlike a certain 68k TI programmer that got banned from yAronet, I doubt Kerm would have similar issues as him with logs distribution.

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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2011, 01:50:11 am »
As i have mentioned in other topics this is true that there are many new members on omnimaga, i think too many compared to only 550 members last year. There are too many noobs out on the internet these days and it is unfortunate that many of them have turned to omnimaga and other calc sites for their attacks.
The new decade brings a new generation of TI-calc gamers, and unfortunately they are people who don't care about real contributions and hard work.
Just hope that omnimaga won't shut down after this.
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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2011, 02:11:51 am »
@DJ, I appreciate what you said. #cemetech is not a logged channel, though.

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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2011, 05:08:33 pm »
Oh actually I meant logs from other users. Most IRC clients have a logging feature that can be enabled (sometimes enabled by default), which stores channel conversations on your computer. However, some IRC channels disallows their users from making these personal logs publicly available. Some do, but disallows logs from being searchable through Google, like #ti channel, and some channels have no log publishing policies, like #omnimaga or #inspired.

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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2011, 06:48:43 pm »
I guess I mainly wanted quotes of what they were saying, and by reading the #cemetech logs I could see the whole thing play out.
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Re: The return of my files on ticalc.org
« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2011, 07:12:10 pm »
You could always maybe ask one of the person that idles there if they got logs, although it would be a good idea to keep those logs for personal use in case. That said, they have a quote site somewhere (with funny quotes) and sometimes people posted some in the Omni quotes thread, so they are most likely not as strict as that one 68K IRC channel on Freequest, where if you got caught posting one single word quote from the channel in public elsewhere, you got permanently banned.