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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2010, 09:16:53 am »
I'll be working on SimpleCS whatever happens, I'll have Wabbit allowed to run on my computer, so no problem about it ;) I'm even thinking of tranlsating SimpleCS to the Nspires' programming language, but I don't remember if there's a BASIC language in those ???



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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2010, 11:16:17 am »
I'll be working on SimpleCS whatever happens, I'll have Wabbit allowed to run on my computer, so no problem about it ;) I'm even thinking of tranlsating SimpleCS to the Nspires' programming language, but I don't remember if there's a BASIC language in those ???

Yes and not, as the basic isn't the same and has less features..

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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2010, 11:17:24 am »
I know that there's C and ARM ASM, but there's surely a more-or-less easy programming language (easier than C :P )



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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2010, 11:01:12 pm »
Not yet, currently all we can do is ARM ASM and C, as well as the limited TI-BASIC. Maybe in a few years we'll also have Axe for the Nspire. :D

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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2010, 04:36:15 pm »
I know that there's C and ARM ASM, but there's surely a more-or-less easy programming language (easier than C :P )
Well, there's java, but idk how easy it is. If you can get a language to compile for arm, theoretically, it can be made to work on nspire.

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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2010, 05:22:32 pm »
There's Java for the Nspire??? I never knew about that. I thought it was only on 68K calcs (QS Moka)?

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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2010, 05:31:01 pm »
Some ARM processors can run Java bytecode directly. I'm not sure the one in the Nspire can, but I'm not certain.
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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2010, 05:55:00 pm »
That is awesome! I would code anything for the NSpire in C, probably.  I need an NSpire...

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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2010, 08:38:19 pm »
Some ARM processors can run Java bytecode directly. I'm not sure the one in the Nspire can, but I'm not certain.
Yes, the nspire can. I remember there was java support in ndless 1.0 but idk what happened to it in 1.7.

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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2010, 07:02:29 am »
Yes, the nspire can. I remember there was java support in ndless 1.0 but idk what happened to it in 1.7.
Java support in ndless 1.0 included Java application to run in PC, it had nothing to do with on-calc Java. And I doubt Jazelle is included: it's optional component in ARM9 (and nSpire is ARM9) so I doubt TI paid to include it.

You can probably port Dalvik (which is not technically JVM, but is compatible with Java language), but even this will be significant effort.

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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2011, 05:01:54 am »
Also, I don't really like hp50g, i wish there was some ti 89 titanium+ ...

Ahahah TI89T!?
 
The CAS of the HP 50g is more flexible, try to calculate this expression with CASIO ClassPad, TI-NSPRE CAS and TI 89T/V200, you fail in any way:

'ABS(\GS(K=1,+\oo,((1+i)/2)^K))' ('\GS' is the summation symbol and 'i' is the imaginary unit)

using the HP 50g we can do it with these steps:
 
'\GS(K=1,N,((1+i)/2)^K)' EVAL SIMPLIFY
'(-(i*EXP((2*N*LN(2)+i*\pi*N)/4))+i*EXP(N*LN(2)))/EXP(N*LN(2))'
'N=\oo'
'lim'
result: 'i'
and finally we get 1 with ABS.
 
Partial fraction:
 
HP 50g
'(3*X^3+2*X^2+X+1)/(4*X^2+2*X+1)' PARTFRAC (in COMPLEX mode) --> '3/4*X+1/8+(7*i*\v/3/12/(4*X+(1+i*\v/3))-7*i*\v/3/12/(4*X+(1-i*\v/3)))', where "\v/" is square root symbol.
 
TI-NSPIRE CAS is unable to do the partial fraction expansion when the denominator has complex roots!
expand((3*X^3+2*X^2+X+1)/(4*X^2+2*X+1)) = 7/(8*(4*x^2+2*x+1))+3*x/4+1/8
In the TI89T/V200 calculators expand() is buggy ahahah :P .
« Last Edit: February 17, 2011, 05:03:10 am by supergems »

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Re: Nspire CAS+: how worth is it?
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2011, 09:28:04 am »
Well first, calm down, and secondly maybe he didn't care about the CAS when he chose his 89T. It doesn't mean you should laugh at him for prefering the 89T over the HP-50G. Also The 89T may have a crappier CAS, but almost nobody develop games for the HP-50G anymore. Also this topic is rather old.

The next time you suggest the HP-50G to a forum member in a thread that has nothing to do with HP or say anything bad against TI/Casio calcs in a topic that isn't related to it or simply try to start a TI vs Casio or TI vs HP flame war like in almost everyone of your post on Casiocalc.org, your forum account will be deleted and your IP will be banned forever. We won't tolerate such shit over here.