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Re: OS 2.21 From Calc to Computer
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2010, 12:27:38 pm »
This also means the OS would not be upgradeable, right?

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Re: OS 2.21 From Calc to Computer
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2010, 12:31:46 pm »
This also means the OS would not be upgradeable, right?

Why?...


Physically, it can be upgraded, by pluging the Flash-chip in an EPROM programmer.
But the probability I just break the calculator doing something like that is over 99%.

I'm looking for a simpler way, a 100% software-way, or a way which would only require some minor hardware modifications.
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Re: OS 2.21 From Calc to Computer
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2010, 07:19:47 pm »
Oh, from what I read in your post, it seemed like we wouldn't be able to upgrade the TI-83 ROM to a TI-83+ OS, as you mentionned some flash pages were not accessible. Of course maybe it would be possible with modifications, but I specifically meant for people who don't want to modify their hardware. I migth have misunderstood you, though, but I know nothing about hardware.

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Re: OS 2.21 From Calc to Computer
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2010, 07:23:24 pm »
Oh, from what I read in your post, it seemed like we wouldn't be able to upgrade the TI-83 ROM to a TI-83+ OS, as you mentionned some flash pages were not accessible. Of course maybe it would be possible with modifications, but I specifically meant for people who don't want to modify their hardware. I migth have misunderstood you, though, but I know nothing about hardware.

Don't worry. I may not have found the best words to explain things.
Well, I hope we can find a way with only small hardware modifications.
(like disconnecting a pin, and connecting 2 pins...)


Anyway, I've started my own topic and given all my informations again.
It was a little off-topic here, sorry about that.

http://ourl.ca/7922
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Re: OS 2.21 From Calc to Computer
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2010, 07:28:18 pm »
Now if only it was as easy as on some Casio calcs, where you just black out something on the motherboard and your calc becomes a new one... (as described on Casio-BANK) ;D

(For those who understand french and are curious, this is what I mean, but the link is currently not working because Free.fr hosting provider is terrible: http://casio.bank.free.fr/modules/archives/downloads/C2Dupgrade.pdf )

Personally I'm not too good with my hands so I would be a bit scared of modifying my calcs or stuff like that, even small stuff. :(

(EDIT: Link works now, but I get a download speed of 23.7 KB/sec on my 30 megabits connection)
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Re: OS 2.21 From Calc to Computer
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2010, 07:39:30 pm »
Now if only it was as easy as on some Casio calcs, where you just black out something on the motherboard and your calc becomes a new one... (as described on Casio-BANK) ;D

(For those who understand french and are curious, this is what I mean, but the link is currently not working because Free.fr hosting provider is terrible: http://casio.bank.free.fr/modules/archives/downloads/C2Dupgrade.pdf )

Yes, it would be great if I could make such a "simple" tutorial to upgrade the TI-82Stats.fr and TI-76.fr.
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Re: OS 2.21 From Calc to Computer
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2010, 12:17:30 am »
Indeed. If you succeed you should write one. :)

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Re: OS 2.21 From Calc to Computer
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2011, 09:39:06 am »
Epic necropost ftw! j/k

Naw, I just wanted to say thank you to all as I did get this figured out (I found a copy of OS 2.21 lying around somewhere... :o).

New question on a related note: How do I dump the Nspire versions of the 84+ OS from an Nspire ROM/OS?  (I have very little/limited access to a real Nspire...).

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Re: OS 2.21 From Calc to Computer
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2011, 09:47:37 am »
Didn't you grab 1.50 from TI-Flash Debugger ROM then use that tool to convert it to an OS file? You had me testing it on my TI-73 a while ago. I think my calc still have it installed.

Exactly.
By the way, my tool is command-line only.

It "could" be usefull for other things, like generating an OS update file from a basic TI-83 ROM.
(think to all the tricks you could play to your friends... :p )

Source code is included.
does this mean programs and apps can be [auto-]installed when the os is sent and validated?
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Re: OS 2.21 From Calc to Computer
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2011, 08:56:03 am »
Epic necropost ftw! j/k

Naw, I just wanted to say thank you to all as I did get this figured out (I found a copy of OS 2.21 lying around somewhere... :o).

New question on a related note: How do I dump the Nspire versions of the 84+ OS from an Nspire ROM/OS?  (I have very little/limited access to a real Nspire...).

Thx in advance
I'm not sure exactly how, but the Nspire OS's are some sort of archive, which can be opened with 7-Zip etc. Inside said OS is a file named TI-Nspire.img, which can also be opened with 7-Zip etc. In TI-Nspire.img is a folder named ti84, in which there are a bunch of files with names like "84rom15.bin". I have no idea how they are formatted, just that their names are suspicious ;D.
does this mean programs and apps can be [auto-]installed when the os is sent and validated?
I think critor was talking about the 83, but anyway:
Only reliably for a TI-83+, because the OS format only allows $20 pages, which is how many the 83+ has. For the 83+, programs and appvars are a definite "yes", while apps are more unlikely, given that their installation requires changes to the certificate.
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