Qwerty: It's pretty convoluted, and we don't fully understand it.  This page sums up our knowledge quite nicely.

Jonimus and ACagliano, fair enough.

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on November 09, 2010, 06:19:11 pm

Also one thing to clarify:

When you arrive on a site: there's no such thing as the first ammendmnent. It's not protected by it. You can say what you want, but the admins are free to censor anything they want or punish people for whatever reason they want. The only thing you can do is if you are not satisfied with that, you need to start your own forum.

That is true, however, I was merely expressing my opinion on the matter.

But there is a difference between saying, "Our Problem with your site" and constructive criticism. Its not what you mean to say but how you said it that is part of the issue.

The title of the post was a last minute decision, I could not for the life of me think of a good title.  It is the least important part.  Omnimaga is not attacking Cemetech with this post.

Hm, that page looks like the documentation on the last pneumatic system I designed: vastly overcomplicated. Couldn't they have used standard networking protocols?

Can we find a more appropriate medium to discuss this than this topic?

I appreciate your point, but the tone of the post is not as important as the idea.  My opinions are hard to get across in a tone that will not offend anyone.

Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 09, 2010, 06:19:24 pm

Qwerty: It's pretty convoluted, and we don't fully understand it.  This page sums up our knowledge quite nicely.

Jonimus and ACagliano, fair enough.

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on November 09, 2010, 06:19:11 pm

Also one thing to clarify:

When you arrive on a site: there's no such thing as the first ammendmnent. It's not protected by it. You can say what you want, but the admins are free to censor anything they want or punish people for whatever reason they want. The only thing you can do is if you are not satisfied with that, you need to start your own forum.

That is true, however, I was merely expressing my opinion on the matter.

But there is a difference between saying, "Our Problem with your site" and constructive criticism. Its not what you mean to say but how you said it that is part of the issue.

Yeah I think that's the issue. SirCmpwn expressed his opinion, commenting on the site and what should be improved, but it was done in a way that sounds like an attack on the site.

It's like if I made a calc RPG and someone said "Nice, but what I hate about your game is that the graphics are horrible and they should be changed". A negative tone can negate a positive comment as a whole. It would be better if the person said "I think your graphics need some improvements but otherwise good job". Exactly the same thing is being said but the different tone can make a huge difference in the end.

Also Raylin that stuff was sorted a long while ago, I'm not sure why you are badmouthing me here.

tl;dr: Kerm and DJ: Get your shit together and get along. You can't change forums. So, stop trying to change each other's.

they aren't trying to change each other's forums. this topic exists because Sir put it here, not DJ. DJ even rated down Sir's post, so take that for what you will. Kerm i cannot speak for as i haven't heard him say anything on the subject. but i haven't seen him try to influence omnimaga at all.

Here's my opinion on it. Many people don't like cemetech for whatever reason. Many people don't like omnimaga for whatever reason. These are Kerm and DJ's sites. If you think you can make a better one, then go for it. Just make sure you have a set set of rules and just go for it. Hey, we like new groups inside the community.
But see, that's the thing. We are in a community. We are a group of people that share the same interests. Each site has a different way of doing things.
On cemetech, they basically make you smarter by expecting this level. It's basically that they help you by making you help yourselves, and not babysitting you like a child. I truly think they try to balance that out as best they can.
On Omnimaga, they want to help you too, but they choose to do it in a different way. Sure, they might like to play games and stuff, but they also have a somewhat friendlier atmosphere at first glance.

Either way, both communities have something in common. We are a group of people that are separate, but one. And we won't let something as silly as a flame war get us down. We will stand united.

Quote from: Raylin on November 09, 2010, 06:32:31 pm

tl;dr: Kerm and DJ: Get your shit together and get along. You can't change forums. So, stop trying to change each other's.

I agree, but it is not just a problem between the two of them.

That thing was solved 3 months ago, anyway.

Anyway, can't we just agree that Cemetech and Omni are the two best TI communities around? (besides ticalc.org, but that is more a news site/archive now)

Yeah, like I said. However, if UTI was more active it would be good. Back then the community worked fine with 4 large forums around. It's just that it's best to not start plenty of small forums just for the sake of having a forum, like I saw back in 2005.

Anyway, I think this is solved. Do you guys think I should lock this topic, now, in case 4 months later, somebody necroposts in it, giving his view on the matter without having any clue what happened? That is typical on forums.